Has nothing to do with Sony=good, MS=bad.

Frankly buying one of the biggest publishers who routinely publishes games on both platforms with massive amounts of success is very different from buying small developers. 

IG made most of its best games with Sony's backing and they were largely exclusive before being bought. ND, SP were largely exclusive before being bought. Xbox owners don't lose anything from them being bought.  PS owners gain from Sony making larger investments into their projects. 

 Bethesda on the other hand, routinely made games for both platforms. PS owners lose out on their games because they're an established multiplatform publisher. 

Microsoft buying Playground Games is a fantastic thing that benefits Xbox players and doesn't hurt PS players.  

Microsoft buying Bethesda isn't the same thing. 

Remember Sony and Nintendo could easy build their own Store on PC where they wouldnt be giving MS a cut of anything. Thats whats great about an Open platform like the PC.

A large part of that is the simple fact that Final Fantasy sells poorly on Xbox, as does pretty much every other Japanese franchise. Setting aside Xbox's bad performance in Japan, even in the US the series sells far better on PlayStation. So that's just as much on the Xbox userbase as it is on Sony.

Remember Sony and Nintendo could easy build their own Store on PC where they wouldnt be giving MS a cut of anything. Thats whats great about an Open platform like the PC.

lol, no. I said that Sony buying Insomniac isn't the same as MS buying Bethesda. The reason should have been obvious, when looking at the post you originally quoted. "Yeah, MS buying Bethesda is like Sony buying a dev team which almost exclusively develops for Sony for ages."

Unknown studios was obviously referring to other Sony acquisitions in your wikipedia list. Or do you seriously think, that I was claiming that the makers of Spyro, and Ratchet were unknown in 2020, when Sony bought them?

Your reading comprehension is terrible.

Are people serious about a narrative where Microsoft is some kind of victim?  That they stood noble and pure against the nasty tactics of their competitors until they had enough and suddenly decided to "push back"?

Anyone remember Dead or Alive 3?  The original Xbox exclusive that Microsoft bought to be a launch game?

Because I do.  Yeah, Microsoft has been throwing the moneyhat from the very beginning of Xbox history.  They're just as guilty of it as anyone else.  There is no moral high ground for ANY of the video game manufacturers.

It's a silly argument because these are all corporations that would fuck ALL of us over in a second if they thought it was to their advantage. 

Stop being puppets and stooges.  You're making the people who play video games look like complete jokes and the businessmen who only care about your money are laughing at you while you look like nimrods for defending them.

I think you're underestimating the value Bethesda has. Skyrim sold 10's of millions of copies.  

If it convinces 10 million people to sign up for Gamepass, they could be looking at $100 million a month. That's 1.2 billion every year.  That's before they've sold any games.  It'll take a few years to make back the investment, but considering BGS's size, they will almost certainly make it back.

You also seem to be underestimating how many people would switch over/ buy a second console.  Huge numbers of people don't care about platforms. They only care about playing CoD, GTA with their friends. 

I don't know. I see 3 ways this could all go down.  

1.) Treat Bethesda as if it was still mostly third party. In this case, MS benefits from game sales on other platforms and they benefit from Zenimax being on Gamepass which is still a huge benefit. This option also pisses off the fewest number of people.  But it is almost certainly the least profitable.  

2.) Use Zenimax as an in to get Gamepass on other platforms.  Basically "We will give you TES VI if you also take Gamepass.". This is pretty consistent with what Phil has been talking about. And it'd be huge for MS to get Gamepass on PS.  

3.) Go fully exclusive.  Use TES VI to make people buy a PC, Xbox, Gamepass.  Force them to have to buy their platform to experience their favorite WRPG or shooters.  

I was talking about Insomniac. The only good game they made on Xbox was Sunset Overdrive. Considering the gap between that release and when Sony bought them, there was apparently little interest in making a sequel. MS fans hardly lost anything. Aside from a miniscule chance of a sequel.  

Meanwhile, PS fans who played Skyrim, Oblivion, Fallout, Doom, Evil Within, Rage, etc.  are probably not going to be playing any of the future titles.