Yea I honestly wonder sometimes if a subscription model for gaming can work out well as far as profits. Are there enough gamers interested in doing it? We know it works for TV cause everyone watches TV. Not everyone games enough to want to add a monthly cost on their bills for it. Hell most people I know only play COD or the FTP games. Will see I'm interested to see how it all works out. I personally have no interest in subscription model I don't even like it for TV. I download all my media on a media server. I don't like how they add and remove things whenever they want.

Like yesterday tried to watch the mist. No subscription service currently has it streaming. Well not Hulu or Netflix anyways. Luckily I had it on my media server. Booted up Kodi and watched it.

If you only look at just the console space no, but you have the console, PC, and mobile space.  That is a huge gaming market and I can tell you its why MS is putting their whole company behind GP.  Gamers tend to always look at now and today as if tech and markets do not move grow expend and make something obsolete.  Gaming as a whole is a huge business getting all the gamers on your sub is the end game.  MS would jump for joy if every Xbox sold also sold with a GP sub but that isn't the case and probably will not happen for a very long time.  The key for any business is not to develop just for today but you have to also develop for tomorrow.  Gamers really do not understand how important it is for a business to have sustained money coming in on subs then having to spend money up front to produce a game and hope it sells good at retail.  Even if GP just broke even it still would be a big win for MS because they want you in their eco system, not only selling you on their services but also other businesses.  MS has these huge server farms, if they are not running to a certain level they are losing money.  No matter if its their own internal stuff or some other business.

I'm not just looking at console. I'm taking into account PC and Mobile space as well. It all comes down to the monthly cost to me and I truly wonder how many people out their game so much they are willing to pay monthly for it. I'm not saying it wont work or not I really don't know I'm interested in seeing how it works out for MS. 

That is why the service needs to have a lot of different content.  Content matters a lot to a service like this.  If MS only had F2P or GAAS small titles things like this it would not be enough to entice a large enough sub crowd.  Instead they must have AAA, AA, Indie big and small.  The amount of content only needs enough type of games to make a person say, well if I paid 60 to 70 Dollars for 2 of these games, well it paid for my sub. Once you have them hooked then the amount of content is what will keep them.  When I first jumped on GP, I did it because between the big games I knew I was going to purchase they were on the service and I jump in on the 1 dollar deal.  Now that I have GP, I have played a lot of games I would actually never have bought but since they were on GP there was no risk.  This is the mindset MS want a gamer to have.  We have so many first party games at least 2 should appeal to you and if so then you save getting the service then purchasing them separately.  Once you are in you probably going to find a few more games that will make you continue to keep your sub and value it.

What's frightening IS the long term plan. A company which can support money losses for years to break the market until its service is the only one relevant is a problem. And when that's the case, consumers can't "control" the market anymore ; if the suscription is 50 dollars per month with majority pf GAAS, AA, and copy paste/game, there will be no alternative. That's not a market that will invest hundreds of millions in ambitious AAA. And i can barely see how it will be sustainable for traditional publishers (musical artists payment on streaming plateforms are already a joke).

Maybe a pessimistic view of the global picture, but I feel, in a dramatical way of saying things , like observers who see people elect a despot thinking short terms their problems will be solved.

Reminds me of when EA Access was going to be terrible because EA would lock full games behind it and jack the price up and then every other publisher would follow suit. Within years we’ll have to subscribe to eleven different services for a total of hundreds a month just to be able to play games!

Of course, none of that happened. If GamePass becomes as big a success as you’re worried about, it will be because MS offers a value that people won’t be able to resist. This is bad for consumers? And why would an optional subscription service become the only relevant gaming option? You can still buy all GamePass games outside of the service. Most games still aren’t on GamePass and a lot of the bigger titles that come from third party, come months after launch.

Just seems like a whole lot of worry for no good reason.

If Gamepass ever becomes what they are describing customers will leave the service in a mass exodus and Microsoft will have to change their ways. The goal for Microsoft is to retain and grow the service therefore the fear-mongering happening isn't really the reality of what should happen. Unless Microsoft really grows the service to have a complete monopoly but with competition from Google and Amazon on the subscription front and combine with whatever Nintendo and Sony are offering in the gaming space that is not likely to ever happen. 

Lure in millions of gamers with great value
Stop making real games, start churning out shovel ware just to have new GP releases
Jack up the price of GamePass
?????
Profit

This is basically what every criticism of GamePass boils down to. And as consumers of course I guess were just gonna stay subscribed to a service that will supposedly only offer rushed A/AA games at a high subscription cost.

You could always move to a mainland Europe country or Japan if you feel you must escape Xbox’s reach :)

Yeah, I have heard this argument so many times and I keep wondering why would this work.  If anything, MS would need to continue to make games that all type of gamers want to play in order to keep their subs.  Its not like there isn't other big guns out there waiting for an opportunity to leap frog in the market, continue their dominance or just flat out beat the competition with better price, games and services.  Way to much fear and not enough real though on the subject.