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Chazore said:

They've already tried this before with their own games and that hasn't worked.

I just don't see them trying once more to pull another fuck over move and force everyone to use their already crappy storefront on PC. Like you can force your Xbox gamers to do whatever tune you jam out with, but PC for the longest time has done it's own thing whenever it wants to. 

I'm a fan of ES and Fallout and yeah, I'd stop buying, because I'm not going to just "give in" like some spineless normie. If they stop selling those games on Steam/GoG, I'll just buy from someone else instead, it's that simple. 

Consoles take 30% as well as other storefronts. Also, MS isn't likely to give up Steam for a chance at trying to force people to using a storefront that not many like using in the first place. 

I don't see it happening, I'm sorry. Much as you want to harp on about the 30% (known only after Timmy boy harped on about it, thus random folk are now doing the same), Steam is still going to be around and is still going to see big games sold on it. 

Indulge me...

If the game is available steam. For $60. And the same game is available on gamepas, same day and date, and you can download it, "just as you could with steam" and play it. What would you do?

Play for $60? or play for $10?



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I'm just going to reiterate that this news makes me VERY happy.



RolStoppable said:
Intrinsic said:
I really think this is all simple. And no, I amnot over reacting.

I have been saying it for a while, that the most important thing MS needs to do,is get games. Xbox, Gamepass, Xcloud...anything that they want to doing gaming begins and ends with them having a strong number of exclusives. They annot win based on simply being that other platform that is like Playstation, theyhave tried that 3 timesand it has failed.

This acquisition does just that. It secures them a respectable list of IPs.Now even if the IPs arecoming to other platforms, one ting for certain is that they will also be n Gamepass. And stuff like that gives gamepass the kinda legs it needs to grow. How does sony justify you spending $70 on a game on their platform he you get that same game for "free" pending a $10 monthly subscription? There is no answer for that.

The only option left to sony is to continue to bolster its own first party output. Buy a couple more studios...etc. But thats notenough, because if MS has done this and this still doesn't swing things in their favor, it has at least shown what direction they ar going to go next, they would just buy up another publisher. And they will keep doing that till it makes a difference.

The long game here isn't to give gamers a choice,its to take that choice away.

What happens when MS has acquired thenext major publishers,those that are stillnot releasing games on gamepass would notice that their games just aren't really selling on other platforms. So the only option they wold have is to join the fold. Before you know it, gaming as we know it would b under the MS banner. This is not some sort of conspiracy theory, its the endgame of any service that workslike gamepas. You either have consolidation, or division.

As a Switch owner, I am very scared.

Lol you likely to get games from Xbox more often then not. One word: Wii60. I still remember the days of the great alliance between Nintendo and Xbox fans uniting against a common enemy ;)



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Welp, I guess that just decided which system I’m getting first, if I get one. Wasn’t feeling either really, but fable and oblivion’s game looked appealing, throw in some elder scrolls and ya got me.



gergroy said:
Welp, I guess that just decided which system I’m getting first, if I get one. Wasn’t feeling either really, but fable and oblivion’s game looked appealing, throw in some elder scrolls and ya got me.

obsidian i assume?



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Intrinsic said:

Indulge me...

If the game is available steam. For $60. And the same game is available on gamepas, same day and date, and you can download it, "just as you could with steam" and play it. What would you do?

Play for $60? or play for $10?

Why not suggest in an all streaming future?, because I know realistically, that's where we're headed. 

I'd still buy on Steam or GoG at the end of the day. 



               

I’m mindfucked. I don’t know what to do.



I am a Nintendo fanatic.

HOLY SHIT!
Just heard the news now. Wow... came outta nowhere



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sales2099 said:

You made sense until you said that. This will make things even overall. Mainland Europe and Asia will always be PlayStation land. Doesn’t matter what Xbox does, you can have a hollowed out PS5 console with newspapers inside. It doesn’t play games. It’s just a empty casing that only looks like the PS5....and it will still sell more then Xbox lol. That’s how powerful the brand is. 

So here’s the question, where you wanna live on the planet? North and South America will be Xbox land. UK, Australia, Russia. If you want to have that warm and fuzzy feeling of living in a country dominated by PlayStation, maybe think about moving to the appropriate country, get that dual citizenship application going ;)

But seriously, you may think this will lead to Xbox taking it all but that’s not gonna happen. Globally speaking, it will lead to a balance

This is a simple numbers thing. 

The one thing that you just consider, is that if given  choice everyone will opt to pay less for the same thing than more for it.

There is no balance here.

MS is not going to come out and say, "hey look games fromallthese studios are now only exclusive to xbox and gamepass". No. They would instead make these games available on Steam, Playstation, Xbox and most importantly, gamepass. I a game is available everywhere on the same day and date its available on gamepass, anyone thathas access to gameass, be it PC or Xbox gamers, will opt to play it from there instead, simply because its cheaper.

And in time, gamepas subs will grow because of it. But then what happenswhen it stagnates? You think MS would have invented billions in that just to let it fizzleout? No, they would do what any company would do, securemore content for the service.

Remeber how I said Gamepass would cost MS billions to secure day 1 releases from thrid parties? I even mentioned the likes of the elder scrolls in my post. Isn't that exactly what this is? MS has spent billions to secure IPs for gamepass. And they are not going to stop here. Want to have a foothold in japan? Buy square-enix. Either way, this will not be the last publisher MS aquires, just remember I said that.

Sowhathappens when enough publishers and their games are under the Xbox banner? The plantation becomes strictly for PS exclusive console, and sony in turn tries to bolster their own exclusive IPs. 

You ay balane.. I think people have no idea howmuch the scales has tipped. Never in the history of gaming has a platformholder bought off a publisher like this. Never.



Chazore said:
Manlytears said:

I don't think Elder Scroll, Fallout and Doom will show up on Steam ...
These games are gigantic, will buying at the windows store displease some? yes, but do you really think fans will stop buying? absolutely not ... these games are very big and have very dedicated fans who will buy them anywhere.
Another point, Steam takes about 30% of the game's value, I don't think Microsoft needs to give up that money to promote "better sales" of such big games ... as a bonus they promoted the windows store, probably making it a little more popular.

In short, many will complain about Elderscroll and others being exclusive to the windows store on the PC, but in the end they will buy anyway, simply because they have no choice, end.

They've already tried this before with their own games and that hasn't worked.

I just don't see them trying once more to pull another fuck over move and force everyone to use their already crappy storefront on PC. Like you can force your Xbox gamers to do whatever tune you jam out with, but PC for the longest time has done it's own thing whenever it wants to. 

I'm a fan of ES and Fallout and yeah, I'd stop buying, because I'm not going to just "give in" like some spineless normie. If they stop selling those games on Steam/GoG, I'll just buy from someone else instead, it's that simple. 

Consoles take 30% as well as other storefronts. Also, MS isn't likely to give up Steam for a chance at trying to force people to using a storefront that not many like using in the first place. 

I don't see it happening, I'm sorry. Much as you want to harp on about the 30% (known only after Timmy boy harped on about it, thus random folk are now doing the same), Steam is still going to be around and is still going to see big games sold on it. 

I disagree with you, respect your point of view and also say that I would rather be wrong ... I dare even say that I praise your attitude of not allowing yourself to be forced to buy at the windows store.
That said, I reinforce my point ... They have the power to put Elder scroll as exclusive for Windows store, if they do that many will complain, but in the end most will buy it anyway ...
The 30% extra profit will be very welcome and the windows store will gain greater visibility, possibly becoming more popular for some.



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