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MasonADC said:
Slownenberg said:

What does not announcing something yet or have gameplay trailer have to do with having it ready? Nothing.

Paper Mario wasn't announced till two months (or less?) before it came out. Mario Collection wasn't officially announced until 15 days before it comes out.

There is no reason to think they won't have a big new game for the holidays. If they didn't, they would be releasing Mario Collection in November, or 3D World in November. That's all the proof we need that there's big stuff for the holidays that we will find out about soon.

BotW2 has been in development for a while. They had enough to show a teaser trailer at E3 2019. It's using the same map (probably altered though) as BotW, and therefore can share plenty of assets as well, which means development time will be much shorter than if they were building a world from scratch. I'm not saying it is definitely coming out this holiday, but it wouldn't be surprising at all if it did. I'd be more surprised if a big game they haven't even teased yet comes out over BotW2 this holiday.

Holiday titles tend to actually have marketing to them. Paper Mario is not a huge title nor was it the holiday title. Also, we are coming out on that 2 month example that you gave for paper mario, so we should know sooner or later if they have one.

Botw is going to get a huge marketing push and tons of trailers. If Botw2 was coming out this year I 100% believe we would know it by now and have seen more than one teaser trailer. I really dont think we are getting a big holiday title coming out this year

Again, if they had nothing for the holidays, then Mario Collection or 3D World would be coming out this holiday, not in Sept and Feb. I don't see a world in which Nintendo just decides to skip an entire holiday season with nothing to show, especially with new systems coming out.

The Mario 35th anniversary is apparently a big deal to them as they just announced all sorts of Mario related things, and yet they did that two weeks before the main game of their anniversary celebration comes out. Clearly they don't think they need to have many months of advertising leading up to a game launch. I would expect they want to focus on the Mario Anniversary, and a bit after the Mario Collection comes out they'll focus on announcing and advertising their holiday lineup.

A few months ago people were trying to say Nintendo wouldn't release a single game the entire second half of the year. Then we got Paper Mario, then we found out about Pikmin 3 Deluxe, and now Mario Collection, Mario 35, and Mario Kart Live or whatever its called. That's an awful lot of games compared to "no games for rest of the year", and we haven't even gotten to any holiday announcements! As this shows, just because Nintendo hasn't announced what is coming out yet doesn't mean nothing is coming out, not sure why people suddenly decided in 2020 than Nintendo has stopped making games entirely unless they've announced games with their launch dates.

Take Sony and Microsoft. They have brand new systems coming out in just over two months and yet they still haven't even given a price tag for them! Hell Microsoft still hasn't even officially announced one of the two models of the system that we know is coming out. Considering these are brand new systems, that is a much bigger deal than Nintendo just waiting until a couple months before launch to announce its big holiday game, especially when they clearly wanted to end the summer / kick off the Fall by focusing on the Mario anniversary.

Also, major Nintendo games don't need a long advertising period. Major franchise AAA Nintendo first party games come out like two a year, so when one comes out they don't need like 6 months to advertise it because every Nintendo gamer knows about it soon after it is announced and every gamer knows its gonna be THE game to get for that time period.

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Marth said:
By the way Mario Kart Live. Home Circuit is made by Velan Studios

This name might not ring a bell but those are the former Skylanders / Guitar Hero guys that went indie.
While its unclear how that project came to be, it is great to see that those guys can bring their experience in the toys-to-life business into a new project.

That's promising since those are games that could have just been a gimmick, but ended up having quality too. 



Slownenberg said:
MasonADC said:

Holiday titles tend to actually have marketing to them. Paper Mario is not a huge title nor was it the holiday title. Also, we are coming out on that 2 month example that you gave for paper mario, so we should know sooner or later if they have one.

Botw is going to get a huge marketing push and tons of trailers. If Botw2 was coming out this year I 100% believe we would know it by now and have seen more than one teaser trailer. I really dont think we are getting a big holiday title coming out this year

Again, if they had nothing for the holidays, then Mario Collection or 3D World would be coming out this holiday, not in Sept and Feb. I don't see a world in which Nintendo just decides to skip an entire holiday season with nothing to show, especially with new systems coming out.

The Mario 35th anniversary is apparently a big deal to them as they just announced all sorts of Mario related things, and yet they did that two weeks before the main game of their anniversary celebration comes out. Clearly they don't think they need to have many months of advertising leading up to a game launch. I would expect they want to focus on the Mario Anniversary, and a bit after the Mario Collection comes out they'll focus on announcing and advertising their holiday lineup.

A few months ago people were trying to say Nintendo wouldn't release a single game the entire second half of the year. Then we got Paper Mario, then we found out about Pikmin 3 Deluxe, and now Mario Collection, Mario 35, and Mario Kart Live or whatever its called. That's an awful lot of games compared to "no games for rest of the year", and we haven't even gotten to any holiday announcements! As this shows, just because Nintendo hasn't announced what is coming out yet doesn't mean nothing is coming out, not sure why people suddenly decided in 2020 than Nintendo has stopped making games entirely unless they've announced games with their launch dates.

Take Sony and Microsoft. They have brand new systems coming out in just over two months and yet they still haven't even given a price tag for them! Hell Microsoft still hasn't even officially announced one of the two models of the system that we know is coming out. Considering these are brand new systems, that is a much bigger deal than Nintendo just waiting until a couple months before launch to announce its big holiday game, especially when they clearly wanted to end the summer / kick off the Fall by focusing on the Mario anniversary.

Also, major Nintendo games don't need a long advertising period. Major franchise AAA Nintendo first party games come out like two a year, so when one comes out they don't need like 6 months to advertise it because every Nintendo gamer knows about it soon after it is announced and every gamer knows its gonna be THE game to get for that time period.

guess we'll see



I do agree that BOTW2 is a possibility for Q4 now. I know it seems unlikely because we've seen almost nothing of it, but there's no way there isn't something big coming for November if they didn't slot either All Stars or 3DWorld/Bowser's Fury there. And a game like BOTW2 that was announced a long time ago and has already been in development for years seems more likely to me than something we've never even heard about. My theory is they've held off showing anything because they weren't sure after COVID if it was gonna be able to get finished in time for this year, and were likely saving All Stars as their backup holiday game just in case. Hence why we're only officially finding out about All Stars 2 weeks before launch. I could see that meaning that they know now that BOTW2 will for sure be ready and we'll get the announcement and probably a whole direct dedicated to it within the month. I think it makes more sense than some huge game we've never even heard about being ready for release in a couple months.It also makes sense that BOTW2 would have always been slated for holiday 2020 so that they'd have something to compete with the PS5/XSX launches, and COVID was the only thing ever putting its release date in question. 



BOTW 2 will be released next year guys

It's the 35th year anniversary of Zelda

I think it will be a conjoint release along with the new Nintendo Switch model



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This thread is better than Sweet Valley High. Not the entire series. But maybe one of the best books. The New Jessica. Dangerous Love. Jessica's Secret. Two-Boy Weekend. Jessica Against Bruce. I was really into the Jessica-centric ones.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

COKTOE said:
This thread is better than Sweet Valley High. Not the entire series. But maybe one of the best books. The New Jessica. Dangerous Love. Jessica's Secret. Two-Boy Weekend. Jessica Against Bruce. I was really into the Jessica-centric ones.

You're welcome : )



Hiku said:
Vodacixi said:

Read my post above yours. If you have a better answer, I'd like to hear it xD

"- Put a timer on digital sales. Not too small, but small enough to make people worry. That together with the limited physical print will put even more pressure on fans to adquire the game even if they are not entirely convinced"

Getting people on the fence to panic buy it? Well if someone isn't convinced, waiting wouldn't really change much, right? Because Nintendo games tend to not drop in price. So I wonder how many people that would sway.
People who plan to buy a Switch later may look at this and consider buying it sooner if they're that interested in this game.

But limiting the sales of these games to just 6 months doesn't seem like a great idea, so perhaps they want to sell these games separately after that, and think it'll be more profitable that way.

I don't know, I see a lot of people complaining about the price. If it would have been sold normaly, they could have looked for different retailers for a slightly better price (here in Spain you can find Nintendo games at 49'99 at certain stores instead of the official 59,99) or wait for one of those eShop sales they do twice or thrice a year to grab it for 39,99. But by limiting physical copies and make digital sales temporary, they cannot wait. They either buy it now, or they don't buy it at all.

Selling them separately, or like others have said, with Galaxy 2, sounds like something someone who made a game available for limited time would do, so I could see that happening.



To add to this discussion, I just want to say 1) I do think Nintendo has at least one more first party game for this year and 2) I doubt it is Breath of the Wild 2.

The reason is that this is the most I've ever seen Nintendo celebrate a Mario Anniversary year.  For example, what did they do for the 25th Anniversary, 2010?  They released Mario Galaxy 2 and also 25th anniversary collection which was just a SNES port of Mario All Stars.  That 25th anniversary collection really required zero work, even less than this 3D collection coming this year.  This year we're getting the things from this video plus Paper Mario.  That is actually a whole lot of Mario in one year.  I've never seen Nintendo treat an anniversary year with so much fanfare.  I don't know if this is a reflection of Furukawa's leadership or not, but whatever the reason Nintendo is putting a lot more attention into celebrating this Mario Anniversary.

Next year is Zelda's 35th anniversary, and Nintendo has already been heavily pushing Zelda on Switch with the huge success of BotW (Link's Awakening, Cadence of Hyrule, Hyrule Warriors, etc...).  At this point I'm expecting Nintendo to have some sort of Zelda Direct next year that is kind of like this Mario Direct.  If they are focusing so much on Mario this year, then I'd expect them to give Zelda similar treatment next year.



Interesting Direct to say the least.

SMB Game&Watch? Very interesting, but 50 bucks is pretty steep, even for a collector's item. Also, only 8h of battery life, so the Watch part will be seldom used.
SMB Allstars on Switch online? Yay. Not like we didn't already have the games, it's just some graphical upgrade of those.
Enhanced Reality Mario Kart? That might be pretty interesting for the kids if the price is right.
Super Mario 3D collection? Where's Galaxy 2? Really hope that one doesn't just come as DLC later on. Also, not a big fan of 3D Jump&run.
Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury? See above.
Super Mario 35? Great, I'm all for it. But why does it run out on March next year already?

All in all, not much for me since I don't like 3D Jump&run at all. The more physical stuff (the Kart and the Game&Watch) are thus more interesting to me.