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JWeinCom said:
KLXVER said:

I see your point. I agree that the women in those games are not deep characters. However thats all they do. Bayonetta keeps talking sexy and acting sexy in moments when it just becomes silly. And she never shuts up about it for more than a short scene. She cant have a lollipop without acting sexy with it. I dont only see women being sexualized when they pretty much become sex objects. The women in the other games doesnt keep acting sexy and talking dirty a lot of the time. They play volleyball and minigames, but they are not acting or speaking sexy. They are just wearing very little clothes. Theres just that photoshoot mode where they act sexy. Maybe a few other times. Bayonetta keeps preforming for the player a lot of the time. Like some sort of private striptease. 

I feel like there was some X rated Bayonetta director's cut that you played that I didn't.

I typed in Bayonetta 2 gameplay, and this was the first video that came up.

https://youtu.be/z-5W745cGLg

Aside from spinning around a pole in the beginning, I can't see anything overtly sexual. In the cutscene she's not doing anything sexual at all, but is demonstrating compassion and showing that she wants to protect Loki.

https://youtu.be/nquoynXKskM

On the other hand, this is the first gameplay video for DOAX3. First thing the game does past the title screen is shove a girl's bum in my face and tell me her measurements.  Within 5 minutes they're picking out bikinis to dress up the character. For the next five minutes the girl is on a bed in the bikini while the player controls the camera to get the best angles. The gameplay is literally just moving the camera around to look at the girl.

11 minutes she's bent over by the poolside entering the water in the least practical way possible. Twelve minutes in she's napping in a bikini while again the player controls the camera. At 13 minutes the player is instructed to take photos of Kasumi relaxing and to get a picture of butt battle. 15 minutes back to bikini shopping and bed. At 19 minutes we're butt battling. 20 minutes, posing on the bed again. 26 minutes in the player is buying "pose cards" and lingerie. You can also buy suntan lotion.

Then, there's this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MST12aDCkHc

Bayonetta is more sexualized? Come on dude...

lol well again I dont see sexualized as just women shaking their booty. I see your point though.



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KLXVER said:
JWeinCom said:

I feel like there was some X rated Bayonetta director's cut that you played that I didn't.

I typed in Bayonetta 2 gameplay, and this was the first video that came up.

https://youtu.be/z-5W745cGLg

Aside from spinning around a pole in the beginning, I can't see anything overtly sexual. In the cutscene she's not doing anything sexual at all, but is demonstrating compassion and showing that she wants to protect Loki.

https://youtu.be/nquoynXKskM

On the other hand, this is the first gameplay video for DOAX3. First thing the game does past the title screen is shove a girl's bum in my face and tell me her measurements.  Within 5 minutes they're picking out bikinis to dress up the character. For the next five minutes the girl is on a bed in the bikini while the player controls the camera to get the best angles. The gameplay is literally just moving the camera around to look at the girl.

11 minutes she's bent over by the poolside entering the water in the least practical way possible. Twelve minutes in she's napping in a bikini while again the player controls the camera. At 13 minutes the player is instructed to take photos of Kasumi relaxing and to get a picture of butt battle. 15 minutes back to bikini shopping and bed. At 19 minutes we're butt battling. 20 minutes, posing on the bed again. 26 minutes in the player is buying "pose cards" and lingerie. You can also buy suntan lotion.

Then, there's this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MST12aDCkHc

Bayonetta is more sexualized? Come on dude...

lol well again I dont see sexualized as just women shaking their booty. I see your point though.

Dude... she's pole dancing with 99% of her body exposed, and shoving her vagina into the camera... You said that Bayonetta 2 was like a private striptease... this is literally a private striptease. There's not even any gameplay she's just literally performing for the player.  

Last edited by JWeinCom - on 06 August 2020

JWeinCom said:
KLXVER said:

lol well again I dont see sexualized as just women shaking their booty. I see your point though.

Dude... she's pole dancing with 99% of her body exposed, and shoving her vagina into the camera... You said that Bayonetta 2 was like a private striptease... this is literally a private striptease.

Well she just likes being sexy.



KLXVER said:
JWeinCom said:

Dude... she's pole dancing with 99% of her body exposed, and shoving her vagina into the camera... You said that Bayonetta 2 was like a private striptease... this is literally a private striptease.

Well she just likes being sexy.

Bayonetta is the most sexualized character because it's like she's doing a private striptease for the player. Character that is literally doing a private striptease is somehow not more sexualized.  Ok then.

Welp, I don't think you're gonna change your mind, and anyone who may have been following this probably checked out a few pages ago, so I'll just leave it at that.

Last edited by JWeinCom - on 06 August 2020

All depends on the targeted audiences. A game designed for children obviously has to remove the sexual content.

Of course at my age i rather have games built around my needs however games arent always about what you want or built around individuals.

Nintendo is a perfect example here, most of there games are meant for all types of audience so they can't have Zelda in a skimpy swimsuit saying slutty lines to Link because a 8yo would be playing the same game etc.

A 15 or 18+ rated TV show or movie obviously doesn't have to cata for children.



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Let's just not give a fuck and let games do what they want. Ey!? Sounds good to me.



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@Jaicee there is a difference between sexist and sexual.
The mod Schlongs of skyrim for example is great



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We should actually sexualize everything as much as possible so that it becomes finally normalized. The status of sex in developed countries is embarrassing. Everyone treats it as if they're 12, which is part of the issue since not even 12 year olds should treat one of the most normal things in the world that way.

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kirby007 said:
@Jaicee there is a difference between sexist and sexual.
The mod Schlongs of skyrim for example is great

To judge by this response, you clearly didn't read my reply before, so let's try this again. This was part of my comment before:

"It's more than fine with me if there are women game characters who are, well, sexual creatures. That's not the issue. The issue is that the OP seems to want to reduce all representation of women in video games to sex appeal. I'm not on board with that."

The issue to me is not about it being unacceptable for video game characters to be portrayed as attractive or have sex lives. It is, as stated before, that..."The fact that I am a (marginally) sexual creature and female at the same time doesn't mean that all games about women should be Lollipop Chainsaw clones for the sake of 'logical consistency with women's slutty lifestyles'

Let's recap that:

1) You offer, in the OP, broad and sweeping generalizations about women of a sort I could never get away with making about men. I'd be ridden out of town on a rail.

2) You propose that, based on those offensive generalizations, women should be punished by consistently being portrayed in a 'matching' hyper-sexualized manner in video games for your personal benefit.

Ya see what I'm getting at now? So this time let's try replying to what I actually wrote instead of just being like 'you're just anti-sex.'



Lets take Lara Croft as example, whether or not she has changed she hasn't lost that imagine of being a freaking badass.
Sylvanas, Jaina from the warcraft universe are freaking amazing on that department aswell, but the call to make jainas assets smaller because its woke just doesn't cut it with me.
whether you are female or not shouldn't matter, i mean thats the same as saying Dante should have smaller pectorial muscles or shepard a smaller jockstrap.
or any of the general male super heroes not having a 6pack

I made this thread with the following idea: I love the humor of duke nukem on violence and sex and i don't wanna see that become forbidden morals.
you assume I post this with bad intentions.
Spoiler *i don't, i barely think in general*



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