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3D Mario Collection & 3D World Deluxe big enough Holiday titles?

Yes, as big as Smash, Mar... 8 17.78%
 
Yes, big but not as big a... 21 46.67%
 
No, it's good but not big... 12 26.67%
 
Not at all, mainly small 4 8.89%
 
Total:45

It would be good enough for me, but I think it would be a betrayal to their long term fans to essentially not have a single big title all year.

Sales will of course be unaffected, though. For people just buying the system, everything is a new game. They could give Odyssey a new marketing push, even.



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To piggy back off what xMetroid is saying. You guys are SEVERELY underestimating the nostalgia for the 3D Mario games; Especially 64 and Galaxy.

We've got the data and the numbers that show remakes of old, beloved classic games sell just as well, and are just as profitable, if not more, than brand new games.
- Resident Evil 2 Remake
- Link's Awakening
- Crash N Sane Trilogy
- Final Fantasy VII Remake

3 of the 4 games I just listed even outsold their original releases. The 4th became the fastest selling entry in its franchise's history.

If you don't think a 3D Mario collection can sell and pull in the same numbers for both hardware and software as a new 3D Mario game, you need a reality check.

Think about the games we're talking about here. They're some of the most beloved and universally acclaimed titles in gaming history:

Super Mario 64 - One of the most revolutionary titles of all time that set A LOT of standards back in 1996. The game that pretty much kick started 3D platforming and for many people, 3D gaming in general. The vast majority of people would rush out to the stores to by the collection just for this game alone!

Super Mario Galaxy - A masterpiece in every conceivable way when it released and for a lot of people, the Wii's magnum opus. You know how everyone has their list of 10/10 games? Everyone has them, myself included. But only 1 game is on that list - This is it. This is the ONLY game I would give a 10/10 Perfect score without hesitation. Everything about this title just *clicks*. It's one of those titles where as soon as you put start it up, hear that first music track for the first level (Star Festival) you realize, with a huge smile overtaking your face - "Ohhhh, this is going to be one of THOSE games! Let's do this!"

Super Mario Galaxy 2 - Pretty much everything I said about Galaxy 1 can be copied and pasted here. (Minus the personal, 10/10 Perfect score bit. This game is a 9.6-9.7 for me.)

Super Mario Sunshine - A game that has its admirers and has a lot of good to great things going for it. A solid game in its own right, but when compared to 64 and Galaxy... Yeah, it falls short to say the least. (Though I personally think Sunshine is better than 64.) This game, just as much, if not more, than 64, would benefit the most from the remake treatment. There were a lot of flaws that plagued this particular title back in 2002. F.L.U.D.D. was largely underutilized and I think there's some unexplored groundwork there.

Then, you have 3D Land and/or 3D World are just kind of added bonuses.

And this isn't just any top video game franchise, it's THE top video game franchise.

People who grew up with these titles and remember them fondly, ESPECIALLY the ones who dropped video games a long time ago and haven't played them since... Once they read the headline: "Super Mario 64, Super Mario Galaxy, and more 3D Mario games are getting REMADE for the Nintendo Switch" on Twitter, Facebook, IGN, YouTube, or wherever. They're going to come rushing out in droves. A lot of them who are parents, may be MORE excited than their own kids, who will be playing them for the first time, to play these games again.

Why? Because it's Mario. He's the Mickey Mouse of video games.

To be honest, I'm surprised Nintendo hasn't done this already. 

A 3D Mario collection of all these beloved classics would sell more hardware and reach more people than a new 3D Mario game. And now's as good a time as any! 

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I wonder what sort of remakes or collections they'll release. I think a remake of 64 with added content would be pretty cool, like say actually getting to play with Yoshi after you beat the game instead of just finding Yoshi on the roof, maybe some added levels designed for Yoshi as post game content?! If it is a 64 remake sold alone and then a Galaxy HD Collection that would be pretty sweet. Either that or just bundle straight HD ports of 64, Sunshine, and the two Galaxies. Any of those would sell an absolute ton. I can't see them remaking anything beyond 64, if they even remake that one. The other games are modern enough to just need HD upgrades to look great.

I'd probably eventually pick up a 64 remake, or a galaxy hd collection, or a hd collection of all four games. I could see any of those selling well over 10 million.



If Nintendo releases a remaster compilation of SM64, Sunshine, Galaxy 1 and 2 for holidays, the game will sell great. Gamers would get a nice piece of Nintendo history in one package.

According to rumors, 3D World was to come out somehow at the beginning of next year, expanded with new levels and other additions.

There were also rumors of an improved version of Pikmin 3 scheduled for this year. I wonder if any of this turns out to be true.



Is it ideal? No, but will it work out alright? Probably sure. COVID-19 has been a major boom for Switch especially because with kids stuck at home with limited entertainment options for months on end, Switch has seen such high sales in the first three quarters and brand momentum is such that they should be able to get through this holiday season still riding high.

This year is kind of just a weird one off.



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If they don't have any major new releases, just having some Mario remakes or Mario collection paired with a Switch Sports would be plenty. Bring in people with Mario nostalgia and then give them a new Wii Sports like experience to have fun playing if Covid continues to last for several more months. It'd also be a perfect time to get another Ring Fit game out there with everyone working out at home these days. Mario Collection + motion control Switch sports + new Ring Fit would be a killer combo even without a new AAA mega selling title.



Trunkin said:
It would be good enough for me, but I think it would be a betrayal to their long term fans to essentially not have a single big title all year.

Sales will of course be unaffected, though. For people just buying the system, everything is a new game. They could give Odyssey a new marketing push, even.

Animal crossing isn't a a big title?



pikashoe said:
Trunkin said:
It would be good enough for me, but I think it would be a betrayal to their long term fans to essentially not have a single big title all year.

Sales will of course be unaffected, though. For people just buying the system, everything is a new game. They could give Odyssey a new marketing push, even.

Animal crossing isn't a a big title?

haha exactly what i was thinking. The game that took the world by storm this year isn't a big title?? haha. I'm assuming he meant all holiday season not all year.



They'd be big enough titles to do the job, but this year we are dealing with a lot of demand that has yet to be fulfilled. In any other year it wouldn't be sufficient to have old games as holiday titles.

Anyways, we should get to know Nintendo's remaining 2020 lineup within the next two weeks.



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I know I’d be crying like a big-eyed anime girl if they’d announce a big ambitious Mario 64 remake.