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Did Nintendo save gaming with the NES?

Yes 70 70.00%
 
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IMO yes Nintendo did save gaming, some people think they didn't for several reasons. But I'll counter argue the common reasons why people don't believe Nintendo saved gaming:

"If Nintendo didn't do it someone else would have"

-This argument completely based off of faith, and you'd need to have a ton of faith that a company would've entered a dead and dying video game industry after the crash. After the 1983 crash, literally no one wanted to have anything to do with video games anymore, from companies to consumers and retailers. If the video game industry was DEAD DEAD with no one, more specifically in NA interested in video games anymore, why in the world would a company attempt to market a video game system if no one is interested. To most companies, it wouldn't have made sense from a business standpoint as many companies and analysts at the time would consider that a company suicide. Even if a company did somehow have faith they could revive the gaming industry, the amount of huge hurdles a company would have to jump through just to get a video game system into retailers and in the hands of the consumer would likely have been too much for any company to handle. It literally took Nintendo to give NES's for free to retailers with Nintendo doing all the work when it comes to displaying the system to get retailers to finally stock the NES, retailers thought Nintendo was crazy for doing this, with even one store manager saying "It's your funeral" I'm sure 99.9% of companies would've given up on reviving the industry knowing all the hurdles in front of them. Even if that company SOMEHOW did revive video games(which is extremely unlikely), do you think now irrelevant companies like Atari or Sega would've kept it afloat and as big for so long?! They're now considered irrelevant companies for a reason, they're run by idiots. How about Sony & Microsoft, two companies who had NOTHING to do with video games until Nintendo got the industry big. They wouldn't have even attempted video games if it weren't for Nintendo's influence. 

"Only the console market crashed, people just moved on to PCs & Arcades after the crash, video games were still popular"

-This is a flat out false statement, video games as a whole were dead ESPECIALLY in NA. Most people completely moved on from video games, believing it to be a fad. Whether on arcade, PC, or console, video games were dead all around. Proof of this is looking at global gaming revenue between 1982-1985, where the ENTIRE video game industry revenue was dropping substantially all across the board, not just on consoles. I see most people try to argue that PC gaming revenue between 1982-1985 was going up which supposedly shows that video games weren't dying and that people were just moving from console to PC, however they ignore the fact that despite PC revenue going up, the entire industry revenue was drastically dropping globally which shows that the majority people left video games in general with the EXTREMELY SMALL minority moving to PC. Showing that video games as a whole were dying. Here's the chart that proves my point right here:

"The Video Game Crash Only Happened in NA, other regions were still playing games"

-I won't deny that the crash technically only happened in NA, however it's important to point out usually when a crash happens in a major market like the U.S, it's only a matter a time before the affects of the crash spread onto other regions, and with no real major console player in the other regions with strict quality control and less video game companies in general, it's likely the crash would've spread to the other regions as well. Also, while the crash did only happened in NA, global video game revenue was dropping globally, proving that the industry was declining overall and would've continued to go in a downward spiral if it weren't for the NES. The industry would be no where near as big as it is today globally without Nintendo, and that's a fact.



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Was there any argument that says otherwise? Its practically written the Gamers history book.



Maybe it didnt save it, but man did it lift it to a whole new level.



More precisely, I think it was Super Mario Bros. the one that saved the industry.



Nope. It was a crash but like the stock market gaming was always gonna come back. Nintendo happened to be at the right place at the right time and capitalized on a vacant market. The crash wasn't this long dark ages. It was like 2 years where things got saturated and new sales slowed down.



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There was no crash in Europe, however piracy was rampant driving revenue down. Nintendo introduced the perfect DRM with their cartridges. Cassette tapes and floppies were too easy to copy. People were not leaving gaming at all, instead it reached the point where it was just big enough to know someone else who had games so you could copy them off each other.

'82 to '85 I mostly played on MSX, mostly games copied with a dual cassette deck. A friend had the commodore 64, same thing. My dad had a PC a regularly brought copied games home from work. People didn't leave gaming, they figured out how not to pay for it. Nintendo saved publishers with hard to beat DRM. (Instead of enter the 6th word of the 7th line on page 23 of the manual which was easily copied)



Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
Nope. It was a crash but like the stock market gaming was always gonna come back. Nintendo happened to be at the right place at the right time and capitalized on a vacant market. The crash wasn't this long dark ages. It was like 2 years where things got saturated and new sales slowed down.

It wasn't going to comeback, Nintendo literally nearly killed themselves risking to put NES in retailers for free just so they could accept the NES in store shelves. Everyone thought video games were a fad and the industry was DEAD DEAD, it wasn't just a decline in sales like you're making it out to be. The stock market bounces back because people desperately attempt to bring the economy back on it's feet since people live off it, no one lives off of video games and nobody cared about it, so no company would've taken the effort to attempt to revive it. 



Nintendo saved gaming, Sony saved quality gaming, Microsoft saved Television



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
Nope. It was a crash but like the stock market gaming was always gonna come back. Nintendo happened to be at the right place at the right time and capitalized on a vacant market. The crash wasn't this long dark ages. It was like 2 years where things got saturated and new sales slowed down.

This pretty much. They were the ones that did it, but there was no way the medium was going to die if they hadn't stepped up.



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Pc gaming would have been more popular. If NES didn’t happen, genesis/mega drive would have been the one to usher consoles back in.