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Which is better?

Original Xbox 39 69.64%
 
Xbox One 17 30.36%
 
Total:56
Mr Puggsly said:
curl-6 said:

You can play Wii games on the Wii U as well, yet a lot of folks would consider the Wii to be the superior system.

One could argue that the older system was better in its time or had a better original/exclusive lineup.

But even in 2001-2005 I would rather have access to the Xbox One's library. But of course it didn't exist.

The only logical debate to have is library vs library.

SNES vs N64, SNES wins because it has a better library. So its not just about, "in its time."

Saturn vs Dreamcast is a little more subjective because they both had relatively small libraries and shine in different ways. But I would still say Dreamcast.

Personally, I'd still give the original Xbox the win both for its time and now.

For me, the older system simply has more standout games of its own.



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Pemalite said:
Library Quality > Quantity.
Whilst the Xbox One might have the quantity... There has not been a *single* genre-defining game on the system.

The OG Xbox broke ground in many areas with Morrowind being a open-world fantasy RPG that would later define Bethesda as a company and how it's games are made.
Halo redefined an entire genre.
Halo 2 defined what online-multiplayer console gaming could be.

I don't feel Xbox One just has quantity, it also has more quality/enjoyable titles.

While Morrowind was unique for its time, Oblivion and Skyrim were are generally considered superior if you don't have nostalgia. I know we're ignoring BC but its also better on X1.

Also, if you're gonna revisit Halo 1 and 2, I would suggest doing it on a X1.



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curl-6 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

But even in 2001-2005 I would rather have access to the Xbox One's library. But of course it didn't exist.

The only logical debate to have is library vs library.

SNES vs N64, SNES wins because it has a better library. So its not just about, "in its time."

Saturn vs Dreamcast is a little more subjective because they both had relatively small libraries and shine in different ways. But I would still say Dreamcast.

Personally, I'd still give the original Xbox the win both for its time and now.

For me, the older system simply has more standout games of its own.

I really feel that's nostalgia talking and we certainly know OG Xbox gets crushed in number of enjoyable/quality titles.

If there wasn't a significant amount of standout Xbox One games, I fail to see why there is so much port begging of 8th gen games on Switch. Clearly people should be begging for 6th gen games on Switch.



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Mr Puggsly said:
curl-6 said:

Personally, I'd still give the original Xbox the win both for its time and now.

For me, the older system simply has more standout games of its own.

I really feel that's nostalgia talking and we certainly know OG Xbox gets crushed in number of enjoyable/quality titles.

If there wasn't a significant amount of standout Xbox One games, I fail to see why there is so much port begging of 8th gen games on Switch. Clearly people should be begging for 6th gen games on Switch.

The reason I ask for 8th gen but not 6th gen games is simple; I've already long since played everything I'm interested in from previous generations but not from this generation. I already own all the Xbox's standout games, and I don't need ports of games I already own.



Mr Puggsly said:
curl-6 said:

Personally, I'd still give the original Xbox the win both for its time and now.

For me, the older system simply has more standout games of its own.

I really feel that's nostalgia talking and we certainly know OG Xbox gets crushed in number of enjoyable/quality titles.

If there wasn't a significant amount of standout Xbox One games, I fail to see why there is so much port begging of 8th gen games on Switch. Clearly people should be begging for 6th gen games on Switch.

I don't see a single exclusive game on XBO as unique as Orta, JSRF, Otogi, Phantom Dust, Metal Wolf Chaos, Shenmue II. It's not nostalgia. XB had more unique offerings that were exclusive at the time and some of those still are exclusive and still great and unique.



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Leynos said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I really feel that's nostalgia talking and we certainly know OG Xbox gets crushed in number of enjoyable/quality titles.

If there wasn't a significant amount of standout Xbox One games, I fail to see why there is so much port begging of 8th gen games on Switch. Clearly people should be begging for 6th gen games on Switch.

I don't see a single exclusive game on XBO as unique as Orta, JSRF, Otogi, Phantom Dust, Metal Wolf Chaos, Shenmue II. It's not nostalgia. XB had more unique offerings that were exclusive at the time and some of those still are exclusive and still great and unique.

I don't think Orta is considered the best in the series. Don't think its entirely unique if its basically another Panzer Dragoon game.

JSRF is cool, but having revisited that and the original in recent years, I prefer the original. That's another game that isn't exactly unique when you consider its a sequel.

I own both Otogi games, they didn't really appeal to me. Dark Souls would be considered better even back then. In fact, the entire Dark Souls trilogy is on X1 along with Sekiro.

I think the Phantom Dust port on Xbox One is actually a better option. Also, significantly more people played it on Xbox One.

I purchased Metal Wolf Chaos on Xbox One. I played it a bit, I am not impressed. Its a funny idea for a game, but the actual gameplay is meh.

I actually replayed Shenmue II a few years back on my OG Xbox. Hmmmm... it didn't age particularly well. There are many flaws that we simply ignored back in 2000 or whenever the Dreamcast version released. The recent Yakuza games, which are found on Xbox One, are more enjoyable.

I'll give you this, Tony Hawk 2x was a great exclusive on OG Xbox. However... the upcoming Tony Hawk remaster might be better. Xbox One isn't even done yet, still has many games coming.



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Mr Puggsly said:
Pemalite said:
Library Quality > Quantity.
Whilst the Xbox One might have the quantity... There has not been a *single* genre-defining game on the system.

The OG Xbox broke ground in many areas with Morrowind being a open-world fantasy RPG that would later define Bethesda as a company and how it's games are made.
Halo redefined an entire genre.
Halo 2 defined what online-multiplayer console gaming could be.

I don't feel Xbox One just has quantity, it also has more quality/enjoyable titles.

While Morrowind was unique for its time, Oblivion and Skyrim were are generally considered superior if you don't have nostalgia. I know we're ignoring BC but its also better on X1.

Also, if you're gonna revisit Halo 1 and 2, I would suggest doing it on a X1.

Oblivion and Skyrim were more Xbox 360 titles rather than Xbox One titles.
Sure you got the remastered Skyrim release... But for all intents and purposes, it's still a fundamentally an Xbox 360 title.

Morrowind laid allot of the design principles that we have come to enjoy out of Elder scrolls, to the point where Skyrim took it's musical-cues... And morrowind was a very unique game artistically where Skyrim is more Nordic in it's styling.

And sure, playing Morrowind, Halo 1 and Halo 2 might be better on the Xbox One in 2020... But keep in mind that they are just re-releases, they aren't defining  entire genres and getting the entire gaming industry excited as they are the same games with a new coat of paint. - Plus the re-releases of Halo 1 and 2 on the Master Chief Collection on Xbox One when released was a bug ridden, colossal mess, which didn't help matters at all.

The Original Xbox got the entire industry excited with Halo 1 and 2, it was the talk of the gaming industry, today? Xbox doesn't really get that same community focus and excitement with a games release.

The Xbox One and it's game library isn't bad, it's actually rather good.
I just feel as a gamer the OG Xbox with it introducing new console rendering design principles (I.E. Progammable shaders, deferred rendering etc'), new genre-defining games (Halo 1 and 2) and new ways to play (Multiplayer online) were pretty unique at the time and it laid the foundations for everything that came after, including the Xbox One... And that is why I believe it is the more important and superior platform.



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I never owned an original Xbox but it had a certain mystique about it. I had a PS2 and a GameCube and I loved them but I always felt like I was missing out on something. Online play at a time when it was just beginning to go mainstream or the feeling that it just had one best versions of multiplats. It was definitely a worthy console.

However, I've purchased SEVEN Xbox One consoles. Five for myself, one for my daughter, and one for the son of a lady I used to date. I love it.

I'm not gonna vote but one console never got me to buy it and the other got me to buy one for myself and others.



d21lewis said:
I never owned an original Xbox but it had a certain mystique about it. I had a PS2 and a GameCube and I loved them but I always felt like I was missing out on something. Online play at a time when it was just beginning to go mainstream or the feeling that it just had one best versions of multiplats. It was definitely a worthy console.

However, I've purchased SEVEN Xbox One consoles. Five for myself, one for my daughter, and one for the son of a lady I used to date. I love it.

I'm not gonna vote but one console never got me to buy it and the other got me to buy one for myself and others.

Five!? Pardon my confusion, but what on Earth did you need five of them for?



curl-6 said:
d21lewis said:
I never owned an original Xbox but it had a certain mystique about it. I had a PS2 and a GameCube and I loved them but I always felt like I was missing out on something. Online play at a time when it was just beginning to go mainstream or the feeling that it just had one best versions of multiplats. It was definitely a worthy console.

However, I've purchased SEVEN Xbox One consoles. Five for myself, one for my daughter, and one for the son of a lady I used to date. I love it.

I'm not gonna vote but one console never got me to buy it and the other got me to buy one for myself and others.

Five!? Pardon my confusion, but what on Earth did you need five of them for?

https://youtu.be/ndU_TV4bX28

Long story. Basically, I grabbed one with Kinect and put it in my game room. At the time, my game room was so small that I couldn't really use Kinect (A lot of people would say this was a blessing). Anyway, I went to buy some game I can't remember and the Xbox One was marked down to like $250 when it was still supposed to be like $400 or something. I couldn't resist.

I put it in my living room and a friend of mine gave me his Kinect. All of a sudden, I could play Kinect games...but there was a side effect.

Cloud storage.

Suddenly, I realized that I could play Xbox in my game room, turn off the console, and continue where I left off in the living room. Not only that, I could buy a game digitally and play two player online with one purchase of a game. Or two people could play the same digital purchase at the same time.

Then, I met my wife. She wanted me in the bedroom with her. I got a grey Xbox One S for the bedroom so I could play in there at night without leaving her alone.

Later, I saw an ad on Amazon for a portable XBO S screen. I thought, "Hmm...I could take my Xbox on trips..." but the screen only came in white. My Xbox was grey. I had to buy a white one!

And finally, after getting a PS4 Pro (to improve my PSVR experience), I bought a 4K TV to take full advantage of the Pro. Microsoft released the Xbox One X so I needed it to take full advantage of the TV!

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