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How do you think MS will perform at the July presentation?

MS will be in a league of its own 5 6.58%
 
MS will do better than the PS5 presentation 14 18.42%
 
MS will do as good as the PS5 presentation 13 17.11%
 
MS will do less well than... 44 57.89%
 
Total:76
shikamaru317 said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:

This is it this is the year

Technically they have one upped their previous E3 show almost every E3 this gen though. I couldn't really call any of those teases by Phil inaccurate.

2014 did have their best lineup in a long time, as late gen 360 E3's were quite weak thanks to Mattrick killing AA/AAA exclusive support for 360 in the later years to focus on Kinect instead, and 2013 only having a few announces like Dead Rising 3 and Ryse.

2015 did have their greatest E3 lineup up until that point.

2016 was a special year, they teased their mid-gen refresh console, announced 3 new exclusives, and had new trailers for many previously announced exclusives

2017 did have more exclusive games shown than in 2016.

2018 was their biggest E3 ever, it was their longest E3 show ever with 50 total games shown between 1st 2nd and 3rd party, and they announced multiple studio acquisitions and several new exclusives. 

He barely hyped up 2019, and indeed 2019 was their weakest E3 of the generation as I recall, it was quite obvious that most of their studios were saving up announces for the next-gen Xbox, which we now know to be Series X. 

 

So basically Phil seems to be exaggerating but in reality he is always trying to one up his performance from the previous year and does so (except 2019, which you yourself said he didn't hype). Interesting. Instead of viewing him as an overly excitable fellow over nothing, I can appreciate him as someone who is always competing with his past self and doing well at it.



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ClassicGamingWizzz said:

This is it this is the year

That same attitude could be applied to fans waiting for Final Fantasy 7, TLOU2, Ghost of Tsushima, etc.



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Leynos said:
TBH no MS Presentation under spencer has impressed me. Not seeing a good presentation from them in well over a decade. I hope this is the one but I'm not expecting it. Spencer always promises best ever for Xbox and it's just more of the same. A lotta nothing.

Tbh I though E3 2018 was quite great. Certainly better than anything else that year or the year prior. I really think Sony's E3 2015/16, Xbox's E3 2018, and Nintendo's E3 2019 were all the best of this gen. 



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After assessing the level of confidence Phil Spencer has for the Xbox SEX I can only say: R.I.P. PS5



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Leynos said:
TBH no MS Presentation under spencer has impressed me. Not seeing a good presentation from them in well over a decade. I hope this is the one but I'm not expecting it. Spencer always promises best ever for Xbox and it's just more of the same. A lotta nothing.

Tbh I though E3 2018 was quite great. Certainly better than anything else that year or the year prior. I really think Sony's E3 2015/16, Xbox's E3 2018, and Nintendo's E3 2019 were all the best of this gen. 

ALl he showed in 2018 to me were 2 games I was interested in...and I got them on Switch and PS4. Thus he failed to me to entice me to get an Xbox. Phil needed something big to win me back after canning Scalebound and Phantom Dust. He hasn't. Xbox lacks Japanese exclusives. 360 had them. Loved that system. Anything else I can just get elsewhere. Scarlet Nexus looked interesting. Then I found out I can get it on PS4. 360 snagged exclusives away from Sony early on. Now I do like some western games but again can get them on PS4. So unless XSX announces some crazy exclusive like Armored Core VI or another Platinum Game. They have my interest. MS IPs don't interest me. I don't care about Halo or Gears or Forza. Everything else looked mediocre except Ori and Cuphead....which came to Switch. So yeah MS keeps failing to sell me an Xbox post 360. I think they failed most people and why Switch and PS4 outsold it.



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Great summary and of course I wouldn't expect the head of Xbox to say he isn't confident. Some of the strategies they are going at can be disruptive or prove to be unprofitable. Gen 9 will be exciting, still I prefer to keep my console and discs.



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It seems like Microsoft is very much content with their eternal 3rd place. Good for them. No reason to push yourself when you're already happy.



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To me it’s clear who’s the most progressive and innovating the most. As opposed to one platform like the competition you can get their games via console/PC/Game Pass/Xcloud. Low barrier to entry and so many choices. Their investment in 1st party is unheard of, July event gonna change a lot of perceptions with too many games under wraps for too long.

In the end 3rd party games, even timed or whatever come and go. It’s the 1st party that defines the brand. Sony’s conference can be summed up as: GT7, Spiderman MM, Horizon ZD2, Ratchet&Clank. The big guns. Show me more then 4 big exclusives and they prove their first party is serious competition. Forza and Halo are a given, it’s the rest of their studios unknown games that make me excited.



 

 

I personally don’t think it would be all that hard to top Sony’s June show. The Sony show was good, but it wasn’t amazing. They only showed 5 first party games (one of which is an expansion rather than a full game, while another was a tiny pack-in title), and I think 5 second party games, the rest were 3rd party, timed or marketing deal.

MS by comparison has already announced 6 first/second party games that will release on Xbox Series in 2020 or 2021 most likely (Halo Infinite, Everwild, Hellblade 2, Project Mara, Flight Simulator, and a console port of Gears Tactics), all games that will get gameplay at the July event most likely. We know they have several new 1st party announces plus a bunch of 2nd party announces planned for the July show. We’re due a new Forza this year, and we may even see both Horizon 5 for 2020 and a tease for a 2021 Motorsport 8. Double Fine has released 1 game a year or more almost every year for like 13 years, so there should be a 2021 Double Fine announce. Playground RPG studio has been developing their game since 2017, believed to be a Fable reboot, so it should be announced. A Perfect Dark reboot has been rumored for awhile, either from 2nd party directed by Ken Lobb or by The Initiative. Obsidian has had a AAA RPG in development since 2018 that should be announced. Undead Labs could have a State of Decay 3 announce since 2 years have already passed since SoD 2. Add those to the the planned 2nd party games and it is looking like MS will have a very strong show. And of course there is the possibility of more 3rd party games as well; while MS has said the focus is on 1st and 2nd party, they haven’t ruled out some 3rd party appearances.

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shikamaru317 said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:

This is it this is the year

Technically they have one upped their previous E3 show almost every E3 this gen though. I couldn't really call any of those teases by Phil inaccurate.

2014 did have their best lineup in a long time, as late gen 360 E3's were quite weak thanks to Mattrick killing AA/AAA exclusive support for 360 in the later years to focus on Kinect instead, and 2013 only having a few announces like Dead Rising 3 and Ryse.

----- * : Forza Horizon 2, Sunset OverDrive, Fable Legends (cancelled), Ori & Blind Forest,  Halo MC collection (crazy buggy for years),  Phantom Dust (was promised as a remake), Scalebound (cancelled), New Crackdown (cloud based and fully destructable enviroments).  XBOX had a pretty good 2014 E3.

2015 did have their greatest E3 lineup up until that point.

----- * : Halo 5, 100 xbox360 games bc within 1year, ReCore, Forza Motorsports 6,  Minecraft Hololense (fake promotion), Gears 4.

2016 was a special year, they teased their mid-gen refresh console, announced 3 new exclusives, and had new trailers for many previously announced exclusives

----- * : Halo Wars 2, Sea of theives, State of Decay 2, We happy few.  And ofc games shown off before. Xbox One S.

2017 did have more exclusive games shown than in 2016.

----- * : Forza MotorSports 7,  Player Unknown Battlegrounds, Cuphead,... and 3rd party games.

2018 was their biggest E3 ever, it was their longest E3 show ever with 50 total games shown between 1st 2nd and 3rd party, and they announced multiple studio acquisitions and several new exclusives. 

----- * : Gamepass, Accessability controller for the handicapped,  Forza horizon 4, Gears 5, Gears Pop (for phones), Gears Tactics (pc only at e3 event), Halo Infiniate.  And ofc lots of 3rd party games.

He barely hyped up 2019, and indeed 2019 was their weakest E3 of the generation as I recall, it was quite obvious that most of their studios were saving up announces for the next-gen Xbox, which we now know to be Series X. 

----- * : Age of Empires DE (pc only), Battletoads, Bleeding Edge, Forza Horizon 4 DLC lego, Ori and the Will of Wisps, State of Decay 2 DLC heartland, and some 3rd party / mutliplats.

2014,2015, and 2018 are the "biggest" years imo, that xbox had.

2016 and 2017 wheren't as great. 

However 2014 didnt age well, because of how many broken promises it had (ei. phantom dust was never a remake, and they cancelled scalebound, fable legends, and crackdown never delivered anywhere near what they promised).

So the "best" e3's were between 2015 or 2018 for xbox.

"Technically they have one upped their previous E3 show almost every E3 this gen though."

2016, and 2017 clearly weren't the same level as 2014 & 2015.
2019 wasnt as impressive as 2018 either, but like you said they probably didnt claim it would be the best e3 year ever that year.