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sales2099 on 18 June 2020
LurkerJ said:
sales2099 said:

First thing is to please climb off the high horse because if you wanna talk shop on Xbox you should do your homework. 

By drip feeding I mean Everwild and Grounded announced in November. Hellblade 2 and Series X unveiling in December. Project Mara in January. And the third party showcase in May. With the specs and Smart Delivery news in between I can’t complain compared to the latter. 

YOU probably missed the part where it said “First look Xbox Series X Gameplay”. When did they advertise this as a blowout presentation? Since when was Inside Xbox a show about major announcements? Where was Halo or CyberPunk? Since when is a 20-30 minute show compare to a 2 hour presentation by Sony? These are questions a Xbox gamer knows but may by foreign to someone like yourself. This was clearly a teaser, a bait show arguably to play the long game (July). Again if you gonna talk smack, do your homework. 

News flash, market leader gets more views. I’m shocked. No doubt they did a great show, don’t get me wrong. But that wasn’t MSs best either and I’m glad this year they have over a month to plan a proper response rather then go first. 

What are you even comparing? 

Sony has 5 exclusives to sell this year, one of which is bound to be their best selling exclusive game of the PS4, and another that is a remake of the biggest FF of all time. Here is the list if you don't know what I am talking about: TLOU2, FF7r, Nioh 2, Ghost and Dreams. Big games that have received critical acclaim (awaiting Ghost's reception) and deserved their own spotlight, and if it wasn't for the pandemic, Ghost would've released this month as well. It was only natural & smart for them to be on the low about the PS5 to allow their amazing line-up to breathe.

On the other hand, Xbox line-up this year is an embarrassment in comparison, so you being an Xbox-only gamer, I definitely get why you appreciate news of next-gen being drip fed to you over SONY's approach, but if you just try and understand that SONY fans have had a lot more to look forward to than just next-gen news, you'd appreciate SONY's event timing and structure, not that it's important that you get it anyway because you seem to be the only person preferring "MS's transparency" here.

I take the time and try to make it clear to you, and all I get is "SMACK TALK!111!! Do yOuR HoMEWorK!!!1!" when you're the one who clearly hasn't done his homework...... just don't bother please. 

Yawn...why are you talking about PS4 games when we were talking about next gen game reveals and showcases? If you can’t respond then don’t. I’d rather that then you deflecting and ranting in a different direction. 

You liked to wait half a year to get some decent announcements. Good for you. I liked getting one or two announcements every month. You do you. 

So to be clear, you tried to make a questionable at best argument that Xbox’s May event was a official showing. I gave a rather detailed counter that no, you are wrong and the show was just a build up to the July show. Please re read if the argument remains unclear (hint hint if there was no Halo it wasn’t their showcase event).

And you respond completely ignoring that and start listing PS4 games thinking that’s a appropriate response? And then you close with a snarky response of false superiority when you didn’t address anything I actually said? Like I said, you do you. 

Last edited by sales2099 - on 18 June 2020

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goopy20 on 18 June 2020
sales2099 said:
LurkerJ said:

What are you even comparing? 

Sony has 5 exclusives to sell this year, one of which is bound to be their best selling exclusive game of the PS4, and another that is a remake of the biggest FF of all time. Here is the list if you don't know what I am talking about: TLOU2, FF7r, Nioh 2, Ghost and Dreams. Big games that have received critical acclaim (awaiting Ghost's reception) and deserved their own spotlight, and if it wasn't for the pandemic, Ghost would've released this month as well. It was only natural & smart for them to be on the low about the PS5 to allow their amazing line-up to breathe.

On the other hand, Xbox line-up this year is an embarrassment in comparison, so you being an Xbox-only gamer, I definitely get why you appreciate news of next-gen being drip fed to you over SONY's approach, but if you just try and understand that SONY fans have had a lot more to look forward to than just next-gen news, you'd appreciate SONY's event timing and structure, not that it's important that you get it anyway because you seem to be the only person preferring "MS's transparency" here.

I take the time and try to make it clear to you, and all I get is "SMACK TALK!111!! Do yOuR HoMEWorK!!!1!" when you're the one who clearly hasn't done his homework...... just don't bother please. 

Yawn...why are you talking about PS4 games when we were talking about next gen game reveals and showcases? If you can’t respond then don’t. I’d rather that then you deflecting and ranting in a different direction. 

You liked to wait half a year to get some decent announcements. Good for you. I liked getting one or two announcements every month. You do you. 

So to be clear, you tried to make a questionable at best argument that Xbox’s May event was a official showing. I gave a rather detailed counter that no, you are wrong and the show was just a build up to the July show. Please re read if the argument remains unclear (hint hint if there was no Halo it wasn’t their showcase event).

And you respond completely ignoring that and start listing PS4 games thinking that’s a appropriate response? And then you close with a snarky response of false superiority when you didn’t address anything I actually said? Like I said, you do you. 

I don't think MS planned to mess up so bad in May and then bring out the good stuff in July and say "haha fooled you guys!". The May event was their chance to make a first good impression with Series X and MS completely missed an open goal to kick off next gen. I do believe the July event will be better, but you shouldn't think they were just messing with us in May either. 



DonFerrari on 18 June 2020
sales2099 said:
LurkerJ said:

What are you even comparing? 

Sony has 5 exclusives to sell this year, one of which is bound to be their best selling exclusive game of the PS4, and another that is a remake of the biggest FF of all time. Here is the list if you don't know what I am talking about: TLOU2, FF7r, Nioh 2, Ghost and Dreams. Big games that have received critical acclaim (awaiting Ghost's reception) and deserved their own spotlight, and if it wasn't for the pandemic, Ghost would've released this month as well. It was only natural & smart for them to be on the low about the PS5 to allow their amazing line-up to breathe.

On the other hand, Xbox line-up this year is an embarrassment in comparison, so you being an Xbox-only gamer, I definitely get why you appreciate news of next-gen being drip fed to you over SONY's approach, but if you just try and understand that SONY fans have had a lot more to look forward to than just next-gen news, you'd appreciate SONY's event timing and structure, not that it's important that you get it anyway because you seem to be the only person preferring "MS's transparency" here.

I take the time and try to make it clear to you, and all I get is "SMACK TALK!111!! Do yOuR HoMEWorK!!!1!" when you're the one who clearly hasn't done his homework...... just don't bother please. 

Yawn...why are you talking about PS4 games when we were talking about next gen game reveals and showcases? If you can’t respond then don’t. I’d rather that then you deflecting and ranting in a different direction. 

You liked to wait half a year to get some decent announcements. Good for you. I liked getting one or two announcements every month. You do you. 

So to be clear, you tried to make a questionable at best argument that Xbox’s May event was a official showing. I gave a rather detailed counter that no, you are wrong and the show was just a build up to the July show. Please re read if the argument remains unclear (hint hint if there was no Halo it wasn’t their showcase event).

And you respond completely ignoring that and start listing PS4 games thinking that’s a appropriate response? And then you close with a snarky response of false superiority when you didn’t address anything I actually said? Like I said, you do you. 

Sony didn't reveal UC5 or similar level stuff and didn't said it was thei full blow event. So we can say that it wasn't Sony main event as well?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

sales2099 on 18 June 2020
DonFerrari said:
sales2099 said:

Yawn...why are you talking about PS4 games when we were talking about next gen game reveals and showcases? If you can’t respond then don’t. I’d rather that then you deflecting and ranting in a different direction. 

You liked to wait half a year to get some decent announcements. Good for you. I liked getting one or two announcements every month. You do you. 

So to be clear, you tried to make a questionable at best argument that Xbox’s May event was a official showing. I gave a rather detailed counter that no, you are wrong and the show was just a build up to the July show. Please re read if the argument remains unclear (hint hint if there was no Halo it wasn’t their showcase event).

And you respond completely ignoring that and start listing PS4 games thinking that’s a appropriate response? And then you close with a snarky response of false superiority when you didn’t address anything I actually said? Like I said, you do you. 

Sony didn't reveal UC5 or similar level stuff and didn't said it was thei full blow event. So we can say that it wasn't Sony main event as well?

Seemed like a traditional e3 styled event with a nice mix of exclusives and multiplats and high profile games. Followed tradition with early June timing and similar run time of 1:40. MS made it very clear their 1st party event was July. 

Horizon was their near future flagship to show and it was impressive. Same can be said for Ratchet and those world load times. Xbox has Halo and their marketing deal with Cyberpunk and I sure didn’t see those in May. 

Cmon don you know I’m more or less right. MS just overhyped their May event and that’s on them. I’ll admit that now. 



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DonFerrari on 18 June 2020
sales2099 said:
DonFerrari said:

Sony didn't reveal UC5 or similar level stuff and didn't said it was thei full blow event. So we can say that it wasn't Sony main event as well?

Seemed like a traditional e3 styled event with a nice mix of exclusives and multiplats and high profile games. Followed tradition with early June timing and similar run time of 1:40. MS made it very clear their 1st party event was July. 

Horizon was their near future flagship to show and it was impressive. Same can be said for Ratchet and those world load times. Xbox has Halo and their marketing deal with Cyberpunk and I sure didn’t see those in May. 

Cmon don you know I’m more or less right. MS just overhyped their May event and that’s on them. I’ll admit that now. 

I know, was just using what you said against you =p

But in seriousness since Sony backed away from E3 and then with COVID Sony said they would spread the news and reveals of PS5 on several "events" along the year. So don't worry there will be more reveals from both companies.

Still for a MS event to be considered better than the one from Sony it have to show stuff that wasn't know already so Halo and Forza won't really cut it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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sales2099 on 18 June 2020
DonFerrari said:
sales2099 said:

Seemed like a traditional e3 styled event with a nice mix of exclusives and multiplats and high profile games. Followed tradition with early June timing and similar run time of 1:40. MS made it very clear their 1st party event was July. 

Horizon was their near future flagship to show and it was impressive. Same can be said for Ratchet and those world load times. Xbox has Halo and their marketing deal with Cyberpunk and I sure didn’t see those in May. 

Cmon don you know I’m more or less right. MS just overhyped their May event and that’s on them. I’ll admit that now. 

I know, was just using what you said against you =p

But in seriousness since Sony backed away from E3 and then with COVID Sony said they would spread the news and reveals of PS5 on several "events" along the year. So don't worry there will be more reveals from both companies.

Still for a MS event to be considered better than the one from Sony it have to show stuff that wasn't know already so Halo and Forza won't really cut it.

I have no doubt they can no longer coast on the trinity, as huge as Halo will be though. You either like shooters or you don’t. Reaaaaaly banking on Obsidian, Playground, Ninja Theory and Initiative to show their best. The other A-AA studios have the potential to impress but I’m more concerned with the big guns as I’m sure we all are, fans and skeptics alike. 



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curl-6 on 18 June 2020

At the very least, with the likes of Obsidian and Ninja Theory now in their corner, Xbox are going into the 9th gen with a much stronger lineup of first party studios than at the start of this gen.

If these two in particular can produce quality on par with their recent works in Hellblade and The Outer Worlds, that will already be more appealing to me than any of Xbox One's exclusives.



kirby007 on 18 June 2020

Whose upvoting a guy that thinks that a first party (sony) presentation is a valid comparision with a 3rd party presentation (MS)



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DonFerrari on 18 June 2020
kirby007 said:
Whose upvoting a guy that thinks that a first party (sony) presentation is a valid comparision with a 3rd party presentation (MS)

Well don't forget that on VGC it is usually said that both PS and MS are sold based on third parties with the first party being almost irrelevant.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

kirby007 on 18 June 2020
DonFerrari said:
kirby007 said:
Whose upvoting a guy that thinks that a first party (sony) presentation is a valid comparision with a 3rd party presentation (MS)

Well don't forget that on VGC it is usually said that both PS and MS are sold based on third parties with the first party being almost irrelevant.

That still doesnt explain how comparing a first party and 3rd party event makes any sense at all, and that idea should not be encouraged with upvotes



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Instead of seeking to convince others, we can be open to changing our own minds, and seek out information that contradicts our own steadfast point of view. Maybe it’ll turn out that those who disagree with you actually have a solid grasp of the facts. There’s a slight possibility that, after all, you’re the one who’s wrong.