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In the end things like this always come down to personal taste. Take me for example. I am a multiplat gamer who owns a Switch, a PS4 Pro, and an Xbox One. When trying to decide rather to buy Xbox Series X or PS5 first, there are many factors I took into consideration:

Games
The most important consideration for sure. Microsoft hasn’t even done their July show yet, and yet there are already many games they have announced that interest me. Halo Infinite, Everwild, Flight Simulator, Project Mara, Call of the Sea, Second Extinction, The Medium. Add those to heavily rumored early gen games like Forza Motorsport 8, Forza Horizon 5, Fable Reboot, and Perfect Dark reboot, and there is quite a lot to interest me of XSX in the early years of the generation. By comparison, Sony wise I am interested in Horizon 2, Deathloop, Tokyo Ghostwire, and Kena, but 2 of those are timed exclusives that I can eventually play on Xbox, while Kena is cross-gen, I can play it on PS4. As for other likely early gen PS5 games, God of War 5 has my interest and Spider-Man 2 might if they go back to Peter, but that is about it. Not very hyped for Naughty Dog’s future since they dropped Uncharted in favor of the rather meh TLOU. Never liked GT or LBP. Sucker Punch won’t have a PS5 game until mid-late gen since they chose to release Ghost of Tsushima so late this gen. Sony just doesn’t have as many early gen games to look forward to for me.

Design
I like simple designs, nothing too flashy. XSX is simple, PS5 is the very definition of flashy. PS5 is also far too big. Noise matters to me a lot as well, and Digital Foundry claims XSX is whisper quiet.

Services
While PS+ has been superior to XBL Gold recently in terms of free games, Gamepass so far is far superior to PS Now, thanks to day one 1st/2nd party games on Gamepass, as well as some 3rd party games available day one.

Controller
The edge goes to Sony on this one, I like that XSX has replaceable batteries, and I love XB1/XSX controller ergonomics. But MS played it too safe here, the controller is 90% the same as XB1. Sony on the other hand is offering innovations like improved haptics feedback and resistance triggers.

Backwards Compatibility

Definite edge for Xbox here. They have a lead of several years here. Not only will every XB1 game be available on BC, but also all OG Xbox and 360 games that were made BC last gen. And after XSX is out, BC team says they will go back to adding more OG Xbox and 360 games. Also MS offers BC enhancements on many BC games. I can for instance go back and play Witcher 2 on 360 at 4K 30 FPS with improved textures and other improvements over the original 360 release. Easy win for Xbox here.

In the end, XSX comes out on top by a pretty fair margin. And that is before the July show, which is sure to have many good surprises that will sway me even further towards buying XSX first. At this point the only thing that might sway me to get PS5 first is XSX being $100 or more above PS5, but I find that unlikely given the expensive custom SSD and controller innovations increasing costs on PS5. Even price is unlikely to change my mind at this point though.

Last edited by shikamaru317 - on 18 June 2020

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I remember last gen people would ask me why the heck I would choose a 360 over a PS3 when Sony had Uncharted, God of War 3, Heavy Rain, Killzone 2, MGS4.

My answer? I honestly liked Halo 3/4/Reach, Gears 1-3, and other 360 console exclusives like Witcher 2, Alan Wake, and Splinter Cell Conviction better than Sony's exclusives. That might not have been a popular opinion on gaming forums, but to me 360 was just flat out the superior system.

Granted, they dropped the ball big time with the Xbone, but if they can learn from their mistakes and get some of that 7th gen gusto back, I might be willing to give them a second chance.

I'll say this much though; the July event better not be just a bunch of cinematic trailers. I wanna see gameplay.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

shikamaru317 said:

In the end things like this always come down to personal taste. Take me for example. I am a multiplat gamer who owns a Switch, a PS4 Pro, and an Xbox One. When trying to decide rather to buy Xbox Series X or PS5 first, there are many factors I took into consideration:

Games
The most important consideration for sure. Microsoft hasn’t even done their July show yet, and yet there are already many games they have announced that interest me. Halo Infinite, Everwild, Flight Simulator, Project Mara, Call of the Sea, Second Extinction, The Medium. Add those to heavily rumored early gen games like Forza Motorsport 8, Forza Horizon 5, Fable Reboot, and Perfect Dark reboot, and there is quite a lot to interest me of XSX in the early years of the generation. By comparison, Sony wise I am interested in Horizon 2, Deathloop, Tokyo Ghostwire, and Kena, but 2 of those are timed exclusives that I can eventually play on Xbox, while Kena is cross-gen, I can play it on PS4. As for other likely early gen PS5 games, God of War 5 has my interest and Spider-Man 2 might if they go back to Peter, but that is about it. Not very hyped for Naughty Dog’s future since they dropped Uncharted in favor of the rather meh TLOU. Never liked GT or LBP. Sucker Punch won’t have a PS5 game until mid-late gen since they chose to release Ghost of Tsushima so late this gen. Sony just doesn’t have as many early gen games to look forward to for me.

Design
I like simple designs, nothing too flashy. XSX is simple, PS5 is the very definition of flashy. PS5 is also far too big. Noise matters to me a lot as well, and Digital Foundry claims XSX is whisper quiet.

Services
While PS+ has been superior to XBL Gold recently in terms of free games, Gamepass so far is far superior to PS Now, thanks to day one 1st/2nd party games on Gamepass, as well as some 3rd party games available day one.

Controller
The edge goes to Sony on this one, I like that XSX has replaceable batteries, and I love XB1/XSX controller ergonomics. But MS played it too safe here, the controller is 90% the same as XB1. Sony on the other hand is offering innovations like improved haptics feedback and resistance triggers.

In the end, XSX comes out on top by a pretty fair margin. And that is before the July show, which is sure to have many good surprises that will sway me even further towards buying XSX first. At this point the only thing that might sway me to get PS5 first is XSX being $100 or more above PS5, but I find that unlikely given the expensive custom SSD and controller innovations increasing costs on PS5.

Not to be 'that guy' but since you mentioned Kena being crossgen. Most of those Xbox titles you listed are crossgen and playable on Xbox One :P But I get it, its a nice upgrade for people. Oh and PS5 is apparently quieter than PS4, which shouldn't be a surprise considering its size.

But yeah hopefully they bring out more quality games this July reveal. Interested to see if they have any WRPG's games (outside of Fable) in their first party lineup. Also really want to see their cheaper console which allegedly is going to be half the price of Series X and a lot smaller in size.

Last edited by hinch - on 18 June 2020

hinch said:
shikamaru317 said:

In the end things like this always come down to personal taste. Take me for example. I am a multiplat gamer who owns a Switch, a PS4 Pro, and an Xbox One. When trying to decide rather to buy Xbox Series X or PS5 first, there are many factors I took into consideration:

Games
The most important consideration for sure. Microsoft hasn’t even done their July show yet, and yet there are already many games they have announced that interest me. Halo Infinite, Everwild, Flight Simulator, Project Mara, Call of the Sea, Second Extinction, The Medium. Add those to heavily rumored early gen games like Forza Motorsport 8, Forza Horizon 5, Fable Reboot, and Perfect Dark reboot, and there is quite a lot to interest me of XSX in the early years of the generation. By comparison, Sony wise I am interested in Horizon 2, Deathloop, Tokyo Ghostwire, and Kena, but 2 of those are timed exclusives that I can eventually play on Xbox, while Kena is cross-gen, I can play it on PS4. As for other likely early gen PS5 games, God of War 5 has my interest and Spider-Man 2 might if they go back to Peter, but that is about it. Not very hyped for Naughty Dog’s future since they dropped Uncharted in favor of the rather meh TLOU. Never liked GT or LBP. Sucker Punch won’t have a PS5 game until mid-late gen since they chose to release Ghost of Tsushima so late this gen. Sony just doesn’t have as many early gen games to look forward to for me.

Design
I like simple designs, nothing too flashy. XSX is simple, PS5 is the very definition of flashy. PS5 is also far too big. Noise matters to me a lot as well, and Digital Foundry claims XSX is whisper quiet.

Services
While PS+ has been superior to XBL Gold recently in terms of free games, Gamepass so far is far superior to PS Now, thanks to day one 1st/2nd party games on Gamepass, as well as some 3rd party games available day one.

Controller
The edge goes to Sony on this one, I like that XSX has replaceable batteries, and I love XB1/XSX controller ergonomics. But MS played it too safe here, the controller is 90% the same as XB1. Sony on the other hand is offering innovations like improved haptics feedback and resistance triggers.

In the end, XSX comes out on top by a pretty fair margin. And that is before the July show, which is sure to have many good surprises that will sway me even further towards buying XSX first. At this point the only thing that might sway me to get PS5 first is XSX being $100 or more above PS5, but I find that unlikely given the expensive custom SSD and controller innovations increasing costs on PS5.

Not to be 'that guy' but since you mentioned Kena being crossgen. Most of those Xbox titles you listed are crossgen and playable on Xbox One :P And PS5 is apparently quieter than PS4, which shouldn't be a surprise considering its size.

But yeah hopefully they bring out more quality games this July reveal. Interested to see if they have any WRPG's games (outside of Fable) in their first party lineup. Also really want to see their cheaper console which allegedly is going to be half the price of Series X and a lot smaller in size.

True. But I do have a base Xbox One vs a PS4 Pro. I’d rather play a cross-gen game like Kena on PS4 Pro, than play games like Halo Infinite and Flight Simulator on base Xbox One. I’m not expecting cross-gen games to perform well at all on base Xbox One, probably 720p with frame rate issues. Honestly I’m not even sure if Flight Simulator will be on Xbox One, considering how high the requirements are on PC; when they said it would release on console after the PC release they may have just meant Xbox Series.

As for PS5, it probably will be a lot quieter than PS4 and PS4 Pro, will be interesting to see decibel comparisons between XSX and PS5. DF claims XSX is whisper quiet.



I was only joking. Yeah If I was into MS exclusives I would play the games best as they can. Next generation hardware will bring a lot of benefits and fidelity that older gen consoles cannot do; like better textures, resolution, frame rate and load times. I mean I would love to play TLOU 2 on better hardware, but will settle for playing on PS4. And Flight Simulator looks very impressive.

Mark Cerny looked quite proud when he talked about the engineering that went into cooling the console, so I wouldn't really sweat it. I'm guessing it won't be silent but a significant improvement over the PS4 when under heavy load.

Last edited by hinch - on 18 June 2020

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eva01beserk said:
chakkra said:

Thank you! for the life of me, I have never been able to understand people's fascination with Kratos. I just can't stand the guy, and that's the reason why I couldn't even finish the first game.

As for the TLoU, I actually liked the game but hated the ending, so I really don't think I will ever play Part 2.

Thats a valid point. Kratos was first introduced and was basically anger incarnate, no depth at all. So you two would be surprised at the evolution that GOW 2018 made on kratos. Hes an actual relatable character now and has some depth. The best part is how they managed to change him without destroying his history.

Yeah... I've been told that before and I'm actually quite curious about it. I will definitely give it a try whenever I get my hands on a borrowed PS4.



curl-6 said:

I remember last gen people would ask me why the heck I would choose a 360 over a PS3 when Sony had Uncharted, God of War 3, Heavy Rain, Killzone 2, MGS4.

My answer? I honestly liked Halo 3/4/Reach, Gears 1-3, and other 360 console exclusives like Witcher 2, Alan Wake, and Splinter Cell Conviction better than Sony's exclusives. That might not have been a popular opinion on gaming forums, but to me 360 was just flat out the superior system.

Granted, they dropped the ball big time with the Xbone, but if they can learn from their mistakes and get some of that 7th gen gusto back, I might be willing to give them a second chance.

I'll say this much though; the July event better not be just a bunch of cinematic trailers. I wanna see gameplay.

I felt this way up until around 2010.

Fable, Halo, Mass Effect (momentarily) made me more satisfied with 360 up until a  point. I used the end of the generation to catch up with playstation exclusives like Ni No Kuni /Uncharted/TLOU and sony just kept the momentum going whereas MS dropped the ball.



Otter said:
curl-6 said:

I remember last gen people would ask me why the heck I would choose a 360 over a PS3 when Sony had Uncharted, God of War 3, Heavy Rain, Killzone 2, MGS4.

My answer? I honestly liked Halo 3/4/Reach, Gears 1-3, and other 360 console exclusives like Witcher 2, Alan Wake, and Splinter Cell Conviction better than Sony's exclusives. That might not have been a popular opinion on gaming forums, but to me 360 was just flat out the superior system.

Granted, they dropped the ball big time with the Xbone, but if they can learn from their mistakes and get some of that 7th gen gusto back, I might be willing to give them a second chance.

I'll say this much though; the July event better not be just a bunch of cinematic trailers. I wanna see gameplay.

I felt this way up until around 2010.

Fable, Halo, Mass Effect (momentarily) made me more satisfied with 360 up until a  point. I used the end of the generation to catch up with playstation exclusives like Ni No Kuni /Uncharted/TLOU and sony just kept the momentum going whereas MS dropped the ball.

I was actually fine with the 360's latter life; in 2010-2013 we got Halo Reach/4, Gears 3/judgement, Splinter Cell, Alan Wake, Witcher 2, plus still the superior versions of most multiplatform games. That was enough to keep me happy as a multi-console owner.

I did also like some of PS3's games during those years too though, like Uncharted 3, Resistance 3, Killzone 3, and Puppeteer.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

kirby007 said:
goopy20 said:

Generally speaking I think there are 4 types of games. Bad, Ok'ish, Good, and rare gems that are considered a must play. Maybe that's just me, but if any particular console brand has a bunch of games of the later category, it peaks my interest and I would buy a console just to play them. I bought a Switch just to play BOTW, for example, and the OG Xbox mainly for Halo. Therefore, I just find it hard to believe that anyone, who sees games like TLOU 2, GOW, HZD etc. getting 96 Metacritic scores, wouldn't feel any desire to play them. Yet the one single game that is coming to your platform of choice happens to be your most favorite ip of the entire generation, even when it's a 6 hour long game with a 80 Metacritic score. I get that you're into viking history and all, but come on. 

And no, all those studios you mentioned haven't been quiet for too long. Ninja Theory just released Bleeding Edge, Mojang just released Minecraft Dungeons, Playground released Forza Horizon 4: Lego Speed Champions in 2019, The Coalition just released Gears Tactics for pc, Obsidian is working on some indie kid game called Grounded and 343 Studios seems to be hiring for a new Halo Wars. Except for Gears Tactics all of their new releases is sitting on a 70 or lower Metacritic score.

Surely you must notice a pattern here. Most of MS's studios are busy making small scale type of games to fill up the GP library. That's why I'll remain skeptical and keep my expectations in check, but I truly do hope they'll prove me wrong in July. 

ill bite
i quit tlou after 10 minutes, Gow I wont even touch dont like that kind of gameplay since heavenly sword with QTEs
IMo HZD was the only good one

so ye PS offered me one game for my taste

How am I supposed to react to that when you haven't even tried those games? Look, I get it. We all have different tastes. I got a Switch and wouldn't touch any Mario game either. Doesn't mean I don't get why its such a critically acclaimed and popular franchise, its just not my thing. If you look at the top 10 best selling ps4 games, 5 of them are exclusives and they're all different ip's. We can argue how you think those games didn't deserve the commercial and critical acclaimed success they did, but those are exactly the kind of games Series X needs to show on July. Iconic exclusives that set the Xbox brand apart and give it its own identity.

Nintendo has them, sony has them and MS used to have them with Halo and Gears. The problem for MS is that they clung on to the same 3 franchises for way too long and people lost interest in them. It happens all the time, look at Uncharted 4 or God of War Ascension, they were still great games, but there's a reason why they did the reboot with GOW and why we didn't get a Uncharted 5. People want new AAA ip's, especially when a new console generation starts. Sony gets that and they're constantly making new ones and taking risks. MS is simply terrible at doing the same thing or doesn't even try. This is why they've been so damn predictable for 2 entire console generations and why I can predict exactly what they'll show in July.  



curl-6 said:

I remember last gen people would ask me why the heck I would choose a 360 over a PS3 when Sony had Uncharted, God of War 3, Heavy Rain, Killzone 2, MGS4.

My answer? I honestly liked Halo 3/4/Reach, Gears 1-3, and other 360 console exclusives like Witcher 2, Alan Wake, and Splinter Cell Conviction better than Sony's exclusives. That might not have been a popular opinion on gaming forums, but to me 360 was just flat out the superior system.

Granted, they dropped the ball big time with the Xbone, but if they can learn from their mistakes and get some of that 7th gen gusto back, I might be willing to give them a second chance.

I'll say this much though; the July event better not be just a bunch of cinematic trailers. I wanna see gameplay.

If you preferred 360 exclusives then more power to you. Honestly, it's the reason I prefer PS consoles over MS consoles. 

I do feel that MS won't do cinematic trailers for the event. But honestly, if they do, it'll definitely sour what should be a good showing of games.