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DonFerrari on 10 June 2020
trunkswd said:
Cerebralbore101 said:
Sonic Mania

Sonic floundered in 3D for decades until some fans came together and finally made a good Sonic game, with the blessing of Sega.

I came in here to mention Sonic Mania and I was not disappointed by the first response. The last truly good Sonic game was released in the mid-90s. Sonic 1, 2, 3, Knuckles, & CD are some of the best 2D platformers. I am hoping we get Sonic Mania 2 soon.

But still even these lower quality 2D sonics are perhaps better than their best 3D entries.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari on 10 June 2020
trunkswd said:
DonFerrari said:

But still even these lower quality 2D sonics are perhaps better than their best 3D entries.

Sonic Generations and the two Sonic Adventure games are the only 3D Sonic games I remember not being terrible. 

I only really liked the 2D part of Generations =p my son really like Sonic Forces though.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 10 June 2020
trunkswd said:
DonFerrari said:

I only really liked the 2D part of Generations =p my son really like Sonic Forces though.

I guess it was the 2D sections that made Generations a decent game.

Most likely, even more when several of those were basically the genesis ones and gave some nostalgia to us.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

KLXVER on 10 June 2020

I would give it to Resident Evil. Has kinda done it 3 times. The RE Remake, RE4 and then RE7.



Wman1996 on 10 June 2020

I honestly haven't experienced too many. So here's one that isn't super massive, but notable.
Super Mario Odyssey. Don't get me wrong, the NSMB games and 3D Land/3D World were really good. They're probably great. But they weren't on the level of some of Mario's most acclaimed platformers. Here comes Super Mario Odyssey, and it's the best Mario game ever.
Here's one, through updates.
EA's Star Wars: Battlefront II. The game improved so much through free updates, and is much closer to the classic Battlefront duology than any other Battlefront release.



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haxxiy on 10 June 2020

Resident Evil 7 probably. I don't think Resident Evil 6 is garbage per se like some do, but the decline after 4 was evident for all to see.



 

 

 

 

 

Jpcc86 on 10 June 2020

Resident Evil VII after the franchise lost the horror element 3 games prior to me is the one that stands out the most.

FFVIIRemake would be another example.
DQ8, tho to a lesser extent. 4, 5 and 6 were all fantastic. Only DQ7 was kinda meh.



h2ohno on 10 June 2020

With everyone saying Sonic Mania, I'll say Sonic Colors. It was the first good console Sonic game since the Dreamcast days and it showed Sonic could still work in 3d. Generations was the only game to keep the streak going though.

Super Mario Galaxy. Sunshine was the worst 3d Mario largely because it suffered from Nintendo rushing many of its first-party games during the Gamecube era, and Galaxy recaptured the Mario magic. It was a game that made people say 'wow' even though it was on such an underpowered console.

Animal Crossing New Horizons. Not that the previous mainline game was bad. Just that the series suffered from 7 years of crappy spinoffs so any true sequel would be a welcome return to form.



Nautilus on 10 June 2020
JWeinCom said:
Nautilus said:

If fairly certain that Capcom( Kazuhiro, the current series producer, said this), that a new game is in the works. He said that back in september of last year.

Megaman 11 currently sits at 1.2 million units. For a franchise that just came back from the dead, and with an incredibly low budget, that an outstanding performance.

Plus they haven't stopped releasing new megaman collections. It's been safe to say, for more than a year now, that Megaman is back.

And probably the next game is X9.

Capcom has also said things like they were making Mega Man Legends 3.  I've been hurt by them before.  I'll believe it when I see it.

That was the Capcom who created RE 6. We are now living in an age where Capcom has produced Megaman 11, RE 7 and RE 2R and RE 3 R, DMC 5, and so on.

I get your skepticism, but there are plenty of reasons to be optimistic.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

JWeinCom on 10 June 2020
Nautilus said:
JWeinCom said:

Capcom has also said things like they were making Mega Man Legends 3.  I've been hurt by them before.  I'll believe it when I see it.

That was the Capcom who created RE 6. We are now living in an age where Capcom has produced Megaman 11, RE 7 and RE 2R and RE 3 R, DMC 5, and so on.

I get your skepticism, but there are plenty of reasons to be optimistic.

Being optimistic about the Mega Man series only leads to heartache. Besides, this is also the age where Capcom has produced Marvel vs Capcom Infinite (although Disney's partially to blame for that one) and Dead Rising 4.