Why would that change anyone’s idea about BC or Smart Delivery, lol. The only MS game we’ve seen is Hellblade and it looked amazing. I can see why you’re focusing on smaller games from smaller studios and cross gen stuff though, it suits your agenda.

Hellblade did look amazing but we both know that was wasn't gameplay footage. All we have for a fact are the strategies of both companies going into next gen. Sony wants to move away from ps4 asap and focus on selling their next gen consoles. MS wants to hang on to their current gen install base and sell services across a bunch of different devices.

This simply means Sony can potentially take full advantage of the ps5's next gen features, while MS has to cater to a broader audience and keep in mind that most of them don't have NVME SSD's and $700 gpu's. People all love BC and Smart Delivery because they haven't really seen next gen games yet. Once we'll see them on Sony's platform, BC and Smart delivery are still gonna be great, but not so much if you're planning to buy a Series X and it comes at the expense of not getting any exclusives for it.

Again, try to look at the big picture here. GP is a great service right now because every pc gamer can easily run 99% of the games on there. Now what do you think will happen if they start putting their big exclusives on there and hardly anyone has a pc that can play them? GP users would still be forced to upgrade and it would defeat the whole purpose of their strategy. That's why they wont do it until we see RTX2070 Super or better gpu's and fast SSD's become main stream. Until then 1st party developers can only "waste" those 12Tflops on bumping the resolution/ framerate and maybe adding some ray tracing effects. That's the main reason why MS's first look at Series X games got the reactions it did and not so much the games themselves. 

We have seen next gen games though. Sorry that doesn’t suit your agenda :)

I love how both Sony and MS give name to the features instead of the SSD and I/O is faster than the HDD we have velocity architecture, the audio is tempest engine, etc.

Look, we can keep going back and forth like this forever, or... you can just listen to the words that are coming out of Phil's mouth. They're not expecting or trying to sell loads of boxes and push next gen graphics. Series X is a mere bridge to the Xbox ecosystem for people who don't have a pc. That's why they are not making true next gen games specifically designed for high-end hardware anytime soon.

"But our strategy is centred around the player, not the device.

If this is not the year when a family wants to make a decision to buy a new Xbox, that's OK.

Our strategy does not revolve around how many Xboxes I sell this year.

We're focused on delivering services through Xbox Game Pass, which allows people to build their library for a monthly fee.

Backward compatibility means that the console that they have will play thousands and thousands of games.

Smart delivery means when they move to the next generation, the games will move with them."

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52961835

I think its more like they want more people to have access to their games and thus get them into the Xbox ecosystem, with subscription services like Gamepass and XBL. So that people of all that can't lay out $500+ for a new console this year can still play the latest games (for now) and subscribe to their service and play the games even if they 'only' have a Xbox One or One X.

They are hoping people will see the value in having a wider range of content through BC and Game Pass.

Its just another way of going about a new generation. Think of a Xbox Series X being more like an PC upgrade. New hardware launch for a new generation of software, that can also play legacy titles. Cross gen support until they ditch support 1-2 years down the line for older systems. Not a hard rest like what PS5 and Nintendo do with their consoles, at least for the majority of new first party games.

I listen to what he says. Even better, unlike you, I apply logic to what he says and don't spin it to suit any agenda. You should try that :)

The console isn't out yet, we don't even have a price or release date. You have no idea if they are trying to sell loads of boxes or not. We've only seen one game from them and it looked amazing. So you don't know if they are trying to push next gen graphics or not. Every console every company sells is a bridge into their ecosystem, duh.

You constantly change your definition of "true next gen game" to exclude MS and include what Sony does. Again, you've seen one MS game. I guess two if you count a Halo cut scene? Yet you have their entire philosophy figured out. It's cute.

And here you're taking stuff out of context again to suit your agenda. Yeah, he's saying their strategy doesn't require a family to go out and buy an XSX this year. But if you listen to the interview it's in the context of the pandemic and lots of people losing their jobs. He's saying a lot of families will choose food and rent and clothes over a console this year and that's fine. That if they stick with their Xbone due to financial hardships, they'll still have BC, GamePass, and whenever they do upgrade, their games work there too.

Instead of telling others to listen, how about you listen yourself lol. And yeah your first sentence was right, we can keep going back and forth forever. Because you're the type of person who will perpetually spin and lie about stuff said, and I will gladly correct you because it's funny to me :)

If you don't want to go back and forth then stop being wrong, and stop spinning bullshit out of random quotes. Hope that helps.

See goopster, this is how a logical person, unsaddled by agenda and bias reads something like that and interprets it. Try to be more like this poster and less like this shtick you're acting out.

That's exactly what I've seen saying lol. Series X is just like a pc and there is nothing totally terrible about their new strategy. It's great for those who can't, or don't want to jump into the next gen right away and it is very consumer friendly. However, its also a double edged sword if you're planning to buy a next gen console and are expecting exclusive games specifically designed for Series X from day one. 

Think about it. When new pc hardware comes out, does that mean we're seeing a gigantic leap in visuals? The only use of owning a RTX gpu for the last 2 years has been to play console games, but with a bump in resolution and 120fps. Ray Tracing is still barely being supported and even though SSD has been on pc for over a decade, there's still only 1 "game" that kinda takes advantage of it. The only time we truly see a generational leap is when new consoles come out and developers start supporting the specific hardware that's in these boxes. That's what we'll see on ps5 as they're doing a hard reset. But with MS's approach that isn't really possible anymore. Their studios constantly have to ask themselves will this run on Xbox One and the average pc too? 

Now sure you can say the high-end gpu of today is the low end gpu of tomorrow. But the truth is that we have no idea when Series X like specs will be main stream on pc. Maybe there will be a $200 RTX3050 and NVME SSD's will be dirt cheap next year. But it can also take years. Hell, the GTX1080 is over 4 years old and it's still selling for around $600. This console generation could literally be half way over before we'll see games on GP that truly require Series X like specs on the pc side. 

Talking shit about PC hardware prices again?

You can buy a RTX 2060 for $300 - $350, which is faster than a GTX 1080 in most newer games:

You can also buy a RX 5700 for $300 - $350, which is faster than a GTX 1080 in most newer games:

And at the end of the year (when the new consoles launch and Ampère graphic cards launch and RDNA2 graphic cards launch) these prices will probably be a lot lower.