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hinch said:
goopy20 said:

Look, we can keep going back and forth like this forever, or... you can just listen to the words that are coming out of Phil's mouth. They're not expecting or trying to sell loads of boxes. Series X is a mere bridge to the Xbox ecosystem for people who don't have a pc. That's why they are not making true next gen games specifically designed for high-end hardware anytime soon.

"But our strategy is centred around the player, not the device.

If this is not the year when a family wants to make a decision to buy a new Xbox, that's OK.

Our strategy does not revolve around how many Xboxes I sell this year.

We're focused on delivering services through Xbox Game Pass, which allows people to build their library for a monthly fee.

Backward compatibility means that the console that they have will play thousands and thousands of games.

Smart delivery means when they move to the next generation, the games will move with them."

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52961835

I think its more like they want more people to have access to their games and thus get them into the Xbox ecosystem, with subscription services like Gamepass and XBL. So that people of all that can't lay out $500+ for a new console this year can still play the latest games (for now) and subscribe to their service and play the games even if they 'only' have a Xbox One or One X.

They are hoping people will see the value in having a wider range of content through BC and Game Pass.

Its just another way of going about a new generation. Think of a Xbox Series X being more like an PC upgrade. New hardware launch for a new generation of software, that can also play legacy titles. Cross gen support until they ditch support 1-2 years down the line for older systems. Not a hard rest like what PS5 and Nintendo do with their consoles, at least for the majority of new first party games.

That's exactly what I've seen saying lol. Series X is just like a pc and there is nothing totally terrible about their new strategy. It's great for those who can't, or don't want to jump into the next gen right away and it is very consumer friendly. However, its also a double edged sword if you're planning to buy a next gen console and are expecting exclusive games specifically designed for Series X from day one. 

Think about it. When new pc hardware comes out, does that mean we're seeing a gigantic leap in visuals? The only use of owning a RTX gpu for the last 2 years has been to play console games, but with a bump in resolution and 120fps. Ray Tracing is still barely being supported and even though SSD has been on pc for over a decade, there's still only 1 "game" that kinda takes advantage of it. The only time we truly see a generational leap is when new consoles come out and developers start supporting the specific hardware that's in these boxes. That's what we'll see on ps5 as they're doing a hard reset. But with MS's approach that isn't really possible anymore. Their studios constantly have to ask themselves will this run on Xbox One and the average pc too? 

Now sure you can say the high-end gpu of today is the low end gpu of tomorrow. But the truth is that we have no idea when Series X like specs will be main stream on pc. Maybe there will be a $200 RTX3050 and NVME SSD's will be dirt cheap next year. But it can also take years. Hell, the GTX1080 is over 4 years old and it's still selling for around $600. This console generation could literally be half way over before we'll see games on GP that truly require Series X like specs on the pc side. 

Last edited by goopy20 - on 11 June 2020