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Can't believe PS4 managed to stay so close to Switch again. So perhaps we will see PS4 really passing 120M by the end of fiscal year.



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The Switch is still killing it, even in these rough times. Pretty well done and also on track to do PS4 numbers. Cheers all round.



PS4 Europe numbers 6 months away from being replaced by PS5 are just insane. PS4 is still selling like it's at the top of its game in Europe and easily outselling the Switch which is actually in its prime. Europe is the reason why the Switch won't ultimately pass PS4 lifetime and will probably end up like 10+ million short. PS4 has been dying in japan for a while, getting weak in America, but still crazy strong in Europe. Sony dominates Europe in the way that Nintendo dominates Japan, but Europe is a much larger market.



PS4 is nuts this late in the gen, and at the price.



RolStoppable said:
Slownenberg said:

PS4 Europe numbers 6 months away from being replaced by PS5 are just insane. PS4 is still selling like it's at the top of its game in Europe and easily outselling the Switch which is actually in its prime. Europe is the reason why the Switch won't ultimately pass PS4 lifetime and will probably end up like 10+ million short. PS4 has been dying in japan for a while, getting weak in America, but still crazy strong in Europe. Sony dominates Europe in the way that Nintendo dominates Japan, but Europe is a much larger market.

Switch had a lead of ~6m over the PS4 through the first 36 months, so the often cited advantage of the PS4 in Europe has been more than offset by other regions.

So did the Wii but that didn't matter in the end. 

Did Switch not fall behind at the end of this quarter though? (Yes I know PS4 had one more Christmas on it but still)

Also to Slownenberg's credit Sony does dominate Europe and the Switch staying power still lingers in a lot of peoples minds.

We have no idea how next gen consoles will affect the sales of the Switch (Especially with Nintendo not having anymore Directs this year and very little 1st party games this fall)

or even if Switch can dominate a region like PS4 has in its 6th year on the market. Their "home console" support at times tapers off after 5 years or so. 

What if they're forced to make a new "Switch 2" in order to continue getting 3rd party ports next gen? Surely that will get cut into sales and fragment the install base as well.

It's definitely not cut and dry that Switch will pass PS4 at all. 

 



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Blood_Tears said:
RolStoppable said:

Switch had a lead of ~6m over the PS4 through the first 36 months, so the often cited advantage of the PS4 in Europe has been more than offset by other regions.

So did the Wii but that didn't matter in the end. 

Did Switch not fall behind at the end of this quarter though? (Yes I know PS4 had one more Christmas on it but still)

Also to Slownenberg's credit Sony does dominate Europe and the Switch staying power still lingers in a lot of peoples minds.

We have no idea how next gen consoles will affect the sales of the Switch (Especially with Nintendo not having anymore Directs this year and very little 1st party games this fall)

or even if Switch can dominate a region like PS4 has in its 6th year on the market. Their "home console" support at times tapers off after 5 years or so. 

What if they're forced to make a new "Switch 2" in order to continue getting 3rd party ports next gen? Surely that will get cut into sales and fragment the install base as well.

It's definitely not cut and dry that Switch will pass PS4 at all. 

 

I don’t reckon PS5 will affect Switch sales, just like Switch didn’t affect PS4 sales.

but Sony is doing really good numbers for a console that is 7 years old and still $299 (slim)/$399 (pro).



Everything seems to have settled back into its normal range. 

3DS must surely be discontinued soon, with sales like this it can't be viable to manufacture and distribute it much longer, especially now that the Lite fills its niche.

Also Xbone's weekly sales are almost exactly 1/1000th of its lifetime sales, just found that a cool little coincidence.



Currently we are in the eye of the storm. Everything seems calm. Crazy sales weeks were behind us. Crazy sales weeks are still to come for the rest of the year. Tick tock. Tick tock.



Switch still going strong, as expected. PS4 putting up some impressive late gen numbers as well.



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How will Ghost and Last of Us 2 affect PS4 sales. Sony doesn't need to do a price drop, but it would be nice to see the Slim at $199 and Pro at $299. Since Sony won't be shipping more than 5 million PS5s for it launch quarter.