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Everything seems to have settled back into its normal range. 

3DS must surely be discontinued soon, with sales like this it can't be viable to manufacture and distribute it much longer, especially now that the Lite fills its niche.

Also Xbone's weekly sales are almost exactly 1/1000th of its lifetime sales, just found that a cool little coincidence.



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Currently we are in the eye of the storm. Everything seems calm. Crazy sales weeks were behind us. Crazy sales weeks are still to come for the rest of the year. Tick tock. Tick tock.



Switch still going strong, as expected. PS4 putting up some impressive late gen numbers as well.



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How will Ghost and Last of Us 2 affect PS4 sales. Sony doesn't need to do a price drop, but it would be nice to see the Slim at $199 and Pro at $299. Since Sony won't be shipping more than 5 million PS5s for it launch quarter.



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Switch had a lead of ~6m over the PS4 through the first 36 months, so the often cited advantage of the PS4 in Europe has been more than offset by other regions.

So did the Wii but that didn't matter in the end. 

Did Switch not fall behind at the end of this quarter though? (Yes I know PS4 had one more Christmas on it but still)

Also to Slownenberg's credit Sony does dominate Europe and the Switch staying power still lingers in a lot of peoples minds.

We have no idea how next gen consoles will affect the sales of the Switch (Especially with Nintendo not having anymore Directs this year and very little 1st party games this fall)

or even if Switch can dominate a region like PS4 has in its 6th year on the market. Their "home console" support at times tapers off after 5 years or so. 

What if they're forced to make a new "Switch 2" in order to continue getting 3rd party ports next gen? Surely that will get cut into sales and fragment the install base as well.

It's definitely not cut and dry that Switch will pass PS4 at all. 

1. Bringing up the Wii is pointless when its sales trajectory doesn't match Switch.

2. Switch fell behind by ~1.5m which it will easily make up for with its own fourth holiday season. At 48 months we can expect Switch's lead over the PS4 to be equal or greater than 6m.

3. The only people who question Switch's staying power are those who don't properly understand how hardware sales momentum works.

4. Neither the PS5 or XSX will have any meaningful impact because there's no historical precedent of a competitor's console launch having a noteworthy effect, ever. Considering that Nintendo's forecast for the fiscal year ending March 2021 assumes that their first party games can release as planned, your statement that Switch will have very few first party games this fall is baseless. Up until last week people like you believed that Nintendo couldn't possibly have a game scheduled for July, but now it's confirmed that they do. Late announcements don't mean that games aren't close to completion.

5. It's a foregone conclusion that neither the PS5 or XSX will achieve big numbers in Japan, so your arbitrary qualifier is being met. Your "concern" about Switch's first party support tapering off is unfounded, because Nintendo won't have a transitional period where they have to juggle four different consoles which was the reason for reallocated first party support that came at the expense of older consoles. Their most recent transitional period had only three consoles and the 3DS continued to receive first party games for two years after Switch had already launched. Nintendo's next transitional period will have only two consoles (Switch and its successor), so it can be expected that Switch will see at the very least eight years of first party support like the 3DS did.

6. Sounds like you haven't paid any attention to what makes Switch sell. It's not ports of AAA third party games, so pretending that Nintendo could be forced to launch Switch 2 early is a clear case of make-believe. At their latest financial briefing, Nintendo once again reiterated that they intend to give Switch a longer lifecycle than their previous consoles, and so far their strategical moves through a good three years fully back that up.

7. Perhaps it's not 100% guaranteed, but in order to seriously doubt it, there would have to be good reasons for said doubt. You have offered none of that and instead relied on points that have been outdated since 2018.



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3ds will be discontinued when it is near the end of that fiscal year. Probably January to April. End of year party should increase sales of 3DS and therefore it makes sense to continue production until 2021. But it shouldn't be much of that. 3DS is expected to sell at a maximum of 400/500k thousand units this year.


I just did some major adjustments based on NPD figures. Adjustments were made in most regions worldwide.

Worldwide lifetime adjustments:

  • NS adjusted up 1,137,000 units
  • PS4 adjusted up 846,600 units
  • X1 adjusted up 433,900 units
  • 3DS adjusted up 38,600 units
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So with these adjustments, do we go and say the Switch will top best performance in May for any console ?



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Mar1217 said:
So with these adjustments, do we go and say the Switch will top best performance in May for any console ?

Without knowing the numbers I'll say that I'd take that bet. Do you know the best May results so far?



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trunkswd said:

I just did some major adjustments based on NPD figures. Adjustments were made in most regions worldwide.

Worldwide lifetime adjustments:

  • NS adjusted up 1,137,000 units
  • PS4 adjusted up 846,600 units
  • X1 adjusted up 433,900 units
  • 3DS adjusted up 38,600 units

If it makes PS4 reaches 130M sooner I'm all in =p



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