https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9151214

Tell me, was that ever debunked? Did anyone ever visit Era to verify? I've read through the replies and only see people denying Teriol's claim, but haven't actually tackled what DF said.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9151214

Tell me, was that ever debunked? Did anyone ever visit Era to verify? I've read through the replies and only see people denying Teriol's claim, but haven't actually tackled what DF said.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9151214

Tell me, was that ever debunked? Did anyone ever visit Era to verify? I've read through the replies and only see people denying Teriol's claim, but haven't actually tackled what DF said.

I am a very big stickler for context so I clicked on the first link.  Tim states they were showing the demo from a video player, what he did not dispute is what the presenter stating they were able to run the demo on a Laptop PC.  You have to read the whole thread to see the back and forth but here is Tim answer to that question.  

Not sure exactly what was said. The translated quote on 40 fps isn't a comparison between hardware capabilities. To hit a 100% solid 30 fps with vsync in the demo, per-frame times vary from 30 fps up to much higher.

Now you tell me does that answer this question which Tim was answering

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· May 16

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It's really true. Here your video https://bilibili.com/video/BV1kK411W7fK… . The member of epic China also says the storage speed requirement of this demo is MB/S level. Not GB/S level.

Tim does not dispute this question with his answer so I would say that its still up in the air but I am willing to drop it since I really not invested in the answer, just curious.  When you see different sides of a business give 2 different type of answers its always fun to know who is telling the truth.

And CGI will tell you that the SSD doesn't do any computation so it won't bridge any gap per see. But it being faster to transfer assets will alleviate the burden on the CPU/GPU and that can help a little.

Have you watched the Cerny CES presentation? I'm pretty sure the NVME is expandable, they will only have to certify the new drives are a) fast enough and b) actually fit in the console expansion bay. So yeah, expandable and subject to certification.

On the paying narrative, this is just speculation, I'm not sure what Sony would be paying for in this regard. This was not a Sony event, it's multiplatform game engine that just happened to be run on one of the next gen consoles, specific tailored to one's strengths.

Now imagine what you will be doing with this and other tools on even beefier PCs with RTX enabled? *.*

The SSD will just help streamline and make data transfers less costly, so you can make better use of your limited DRAM pools.

But at the end of the day, the CPU will still be doing all those A.I and Physics Calculations, the GPU will still be doing all those pretty particle and lighting effects.

Have you watched it? Seems you are only "pretty sure" and not definite in your stance?

Console itself hasn't been revealed, there are aspects that are subject to change between the time Cerny made that technical demonstration to the consoles actual release almost a year later.
Sony may retain the 825GB drive and make it non-removable and create an expansion slot to *add* (I.E. NOT replace) an nVME drive. - Because isn't there a heap of special-sauce technology in the PS5's SSD that makes it God-like and unavailable to anyone else?

The "paying narrative" could be for cross-advertising or cross-technology licensing where no money actually exchanges hands, business can get messy.

It's not even just that.

Think about the fact that this isn't using the *full power* of the Playstation 5, it's not optimized to take advantage of the entire hardware feature set... And then start to imagine how bloody amazing our games will look next-gen.

That has me super excited and passionate and why I keep reiterating that the Xbox Series X and Playstation 5 are "solid pieces of kit worthy of a purchase" - Because they aren't just a mix of mid-range/low-end PC components in a different box like the Xbox One and Playstation 4, lots of thought and investment has gone into this hardware to strike a very compelling balance... More so than I feel with the 8th gen which was always "meh" from the very first showing. 8GB GDDR5 or not.

Think about the fact that this isn't using the *full power* of the Playstation 5, it's not optimized to take advantage of the entire hardware feature set... And then start to imagine how bloody amazing our games will look next-gen.

That has me super excited and passionate and why I keep reiterating that the Xbox Series X and Playstation 5 are "solid pieces of kit worthy of a purchase" - Because they aren't just a mix of mid-range/low-end PC components in a different box like the Xbox One and Playstation 4, lots of thought and investment has gone into this hardware to strike a very compelling balance... More so than I feel with the 8th gen which was always "meh" from the very first showing. 8GB GDDR5 or not.

The difference in investment is really exciting and kind of funny to think about.  

Last gen the hardware wasn't that great and there wasn't so much custom hardware.  This gen, both GPUs were largely better than most of what AMD had announced so far and on top of that, there's a huge amount of custom hardware (audio chips, I/O, and maybe other stuff we haven't heard of yet).  And that custom hardware is dedicated to processes that the main CPU on the PS4 couldn't even do.  

MS and Sony both talked about how they helped AMD develop RDNA 2, which I am not sure if they were quite as involved last gen.