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Darwinianevolution said:
Bandorr said:
I see everyone talking about people "cancelling their pre orders" but I have a simple question.
What makes you believe they would have ever actually ordered it?

This is the same level of faux outrage that came out when they showed ellie kissing a girl two years ago (I think that's right).

I'd guess not even 1 out of 10 of these "preordered cancelled" actually ever ordered the game in the first place.

Also @Hiku you're doing great work - keep it up.

Well, it's the long awaited sequel of The Last of Us, one of the most lauded games of both last and this generation, selling over 7m copies on PS3 and over 12m on PS4. There are a lot of people waiting for the continuation of the story. If many consider it's not worth playing it, that is going to make an impact on preorders.

That didn't answer my question. I'm not asking who pre-ordered it. I'm asking

Who saw the trailer two years, kept their pre order (or made one) but is finding the "spoiler" so bad that they are NOW cancelling it.

All the rage induced political reasons to cancel this - already cancelled it two years ago when they saw two girls kissing.

Yet you think many will spoil themselves, get so angry at the ending - and cancel their orders even after knowing the game involves two girls kissing?

That's a reach. That's a reach that I'm not sure even Mr Fantastic could make.



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Bandorr said:
Darwinianevolution said:

Well, it's the long awaited sequel of The Last of Us, one of the most lauded games of both last and this generation, selling over 7m copies on PS3 and over 12m on PS4. There are a lot of people waiting for the continuation of the story. If many consider it's not worth playing it, that is going to make an impact on preorders.

That didn't answer my question. I'm not asking who pre-ordered it. I'm asking

Who saw the trailer two years, kept their pre order (or made one) but is finding the "spoiler" so bad that they are NOW cancelling it.

All the rage induced political reasons to cancel this - already cancelled it two years ago when they saw two girls kissing.

Yet you think many will spoil themselves, get so angry at the ending - and cancel their orders even after knowing the game involves two girls kissing?

That's a reach. That's a reach that I'm not sure even Mr Fantastic could make.

Many people preorder on a whim, especially nowadays when companies push them to do so as soon as possible. I'm just talking about general preorder behaviour. I can't comment on the spoilers since not only I haven't read them (so I don't know the extent of the politization or agenda of the game), I have not even played the original, thus I would have no idea who is who even if I did.



You know it deserves the GOTY.

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COKTOE said:
Jranation said:

Well the game gets praised for its story and not the gameplay. Like it would be a different case if BOTW got its story leaked. 

TLOU hasn't been praised for it's gameplay? Could you expand on this statement please? I can't remember what the consensus was among critics, but I have a feeling I could find praise for the gameplay if I were to meander over to an aggregate review site and look at coverage of either the original or remaster.

I haven't seen any praise for it's gameplay to be honest. That doesn't mean it's bad but it's just okay. Unlike it's story gameplay didn't actually try anything new. It was a standard cover shooter, some stealth and a bit of crafting which pretty must describes most AAA games these times.

Again, gameplay wasn't bad. It was just kind of generic.



i quote Mr druckman

“When you make a game, you have these different pillars that you're trying to balance. It's graphics, it's gameplay, it's story and you're trying not to let any one pillar overwhelm the other. You're trying to just keep all of this stuff in your mind like, how does it all work together? Recently, I realized that there's this other pillar of diversity. That's just as important as any one of these other pillars. I've kind of empowered people on the team that have made this their top priority, one of which is someone I have to give a lot of credit to, is Ashley Swidowski, our lead concept character artist, which in film terms would be our costume designer. She is constantly challenging me and pushing for diversity in our cast. Can this be a person of color? Can this be a woman? I see myself as a pretty progressive person and yet my default is a white, straight, christian male. That's interesting because I'm Jewish and yet that's the norm for me right now. It's a challenge and it requires energy to deviate from that. Therefore it's important to empower people on the team that are going to push for this pillar.”

The part where he talks about being a straight white christian by default, why does he have an issue with it? is the default straight white christian male not a good person , or something to be ashamed of? seeing yourself as jewish makes you a better person? or does he have a different meaning behind it.Maybe he doesn't like christians, who probably make up the majority of the games fanbase, and they are most likely straight, and white. Maybe he is is part of the lgbt movement and has it for them.



KratosLives said:
i quote Mr druckman

“When you make a game, you have these different pillars that you're trying to balance. It's graphics, it's gameplay, it's story and you're trying not to let any one pillar overwhelm the other. You're trying to just keep all of this stuff in your mind like, how does it all work together? Recently, I realized that there's this other pillar of diversity. That's just as important as any one of these other pillars. I've kind of empowered people on the team that have made this their top priority, one of which is someone I have to give a lot of credit to, is Ashley Swidowski, our lead concept character artist, which in film terms would be our costume designer. She is constantly challenging me and pushing for diversity in our cast. Can this be a person of color? Can this be a woman? I see myself as a pretty progressive person and yet my default is a white, straight, christian male. That's interesting because I'm Jewish and yet that's the norm for me right now. It's a challenge and it requires energy to deviate from that. Therefore it's important to empower people on the team that are going to push for this pillar.”

The part where he talks about being a straight white christian by default, why does he have an issue with it? is the default straight white christian male not a good person , or something to be ashamed of? seeing yourself as jewish makes you a better person? or does he have a different meaning behind it.Maybe he doesn't like christians, who probably make up the majority of the games fanbase, and they are most likely straight, and white. Maybe he is is part of the lgbt movement and has it for them.

This is a real quote from him? I'd like to see the source on that, if you don't mind.

The idea that diversity is as important to a game as graphics, gameplay, and story is completely laughable.



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https://www.scpr.org/programs/the-frame/2016/07/13/50456/a-peek-into-naughty-dog-game-creator-neil-druckman/



Holy crap at the backlash, i figured the leak would get people hyped instead its pissing folks off because it seems ND dropped the ball on the story.
I want this to push ND to go back to focusing on gameplay, but deep down i know all we will get is more twd/got clones with a touch of over used time travel and subvert expectations in video games.



DeusXmachina said:
COKTOE said:

TLOU hasn't been praised for it's gameplay? Could you expand on this statement please? I can't remember what the consensus was among critics, but I have a feeling I could find praise for the gameplay if I were to meander over to an aggregate review site and look at coverage of either the original or remaster.

I haven't seen any praise for it's gameplay to be honest. That doesn't mean it's bad but it's just okay. Unlike it's story gameplay didn't actually try anything new. It was a standard cover shooter, some stealth and a bit of crafting which pretty must describes most AAA games these times.

Again, gameplay wasn't bad. It was just kind of generic.



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KratosLives said:
i quote Mr druckman

“When you make a game, you have these different pillars that you're trying to balance. It's graphics, it's gameplay, it's story and you're trying not to let any one pillar overwhelm the other. You're trying to just keep all of this stuff in your mind like, how does it all work together? Recently, I realized that there's this other pillar of diversity. That's just as important as any one of these other pillars. I've kind of empowered people on the team that have made this their top priority, one of which is someone I have to give a lot of credit to, is Ashley Swidowski, our lead concept character artist, which in film terms would be our costume designer. She is constantly challenging me and pushing for diversity in our cast. Can this be a person of color? Can this be a woman? I see myself as a pretty progressive person and yet my default is a white, straight, christian male. That's interesting because I'm Jewish and yet that's the norm for me right now. It's a challenge and it requires energy to deviate from that. Therefore it's important to empower people on the team that are going to push for this pillar.”

The part where he talks about being a straight white christian by default, why does he have an issue with it? is the default straight white christian male not a good person , or something to be ashamed of? seeing yourself as jewish makes you a better person? or does he have a different meaning behind it.Maybe he doesn't like christians, who probably make up the majority of the games fanbase, and they are most likely straight, and white. Maybe he is is part of the lgbt movement and has it for them.

I too would like a source on this.



KLAMarine said:
KratosLives said:
i quote Mr druckman

“When you make a game, you have these different pillars that you're trying to balance. It's graphics, it's gameplay, it's story and you're trying not to let any one pillar overwhelm the other. You're trying to just keep all of this stuff in your mind like, how does it all work together? Recently, I realized that there's this other pillar of diversity. That's just as important as any one of these other pillars. I've kind of empowered people on the team that have made this their top priority, one of which is someone I have to give a lot of credit to, is Ashley Swidowski, our lead concept character artist, which in film terms would be our costume designer. She is constantly challenging me and pushing for diversity in our cast. Can this be a person of color? Can this be a woman? I see myself as a pretty progressive person and yet my default is a white, straight, christian male. That's interesting because I'm Jewish and yet that's the norm for me right now. It's a challenge and it requires energy to deviate from that. Therefore it's important to empower people on the team that are going to push for this pillar.”

The part where he talks about being a straight white christian by default, why does he have an issue with it? is the default straight white christian male not a good person , or something to be ashamed of? seeing yourself as jewish makes you a better person? or does he have a different meaning behind it.Maybe he doesn't like christians, who probably make up the majority of the games fanbase, and they are most likely straight, and white. Maybe he is is part of the lgbt movement and has it for them.

I too would like a source on this.

KratosLives already posted it, but here.

https://www.scpr.org/programs/the-frame/2016/07/13/50456/a-peek-into-naughty-dog-game-creator-neil-druckman/