Ended up 1 point short of it, though Pikmin 4 will gain much more sales from non-preorders than FFXVI due to its given more casual genre.

Although I agree that Pikmin 4 will probably open more than FF16, it's not because it's a casual genre. In fact it's the opposite of casual. It's because it will be on the Switch and Switch has a better physical ratio. In terms of sales as a whole, I think it would be slightly above FF16 in Japan, and sell about the same WW. 

Given history of preorder for certain type of games I think using the simple better Switch physical ratio doesn't explain everything. Certain genre have historically pulled more people to preorder their games for said series.

Pikmin and Nintendo platformers don't usually receive the highest of pre-orders but that's because the amount of first day buyers who don't pre-order for these franchise is huge. 

Just check at how Super Mario Wonder is doing right now. Had it been, Splatoon, Xenoblade or more "hardcore" genre of games, preorders would already seem better than they are now.

So... Is this dead?

Well, I was thinking about giving a small and simple update. For the old times.

Here you go.

COMG - 2023.08.15

1. PS5 - Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon - 54

2. NSW - Super Mario RPG - 32

3. PS5 - Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon - 23

4. NSW - Super Mario Bros. Wonder - 18

5. PS4 - Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon - 18

6. PS4 - Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon - 14

7. NSW - Detective Pikachu Returns - 13

8. NSW - Momotaro Electric Railway World ~The Earth Spins with Hope! - 10

9. NSW - Persona 5 Tactica - 9

10. PS5 - Yakuza 7 Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name - 7

11. PS5 - Persona 5 Tactica - 6

12. PS4 - Assassin's Creed Mirage PS4 Version - 5

13. NSW - Dragon Quest Monsters 3 Demon Prince and Elf's Journey (Normal Edition) - 4

14. PS5 - Ys X -NORDICS- Normal Edition - 4

15. NSW - The Quintessential Quintuplets ~Five Promises to Exchange with Her~ (Limited Edition) - 4

16. PS5 - Marvel's Spider-Man 2 (Regular Edition) - 3

17. NSW - Star Ocean: The Second Story R - 3

18. PS4 - Fate/Samurai Remnant (Normal Edition) - 3

19. PS5 - Fate/Samurai Remnant (Normal Edition) - 3

20. NSW - Fate/Samurai Remnant (Normal Edition) - 3

Sorry for the bad edit.

Yeah it seems so :( bit sad as it has been one of the most long running threads on VGC

Here's Johnny! AC finishes in pathetic fashion as expected. The last AC game was in 2013. FROM would rather hold limited timed events on the weekends for people (and its so crowded that people couldn't in) try it out in person than release the demo on the PS Store to reach a wider audience (potential new players) who don't have the time and want to waste money to travel all the way to the areas they are hosting the events. What's also interesting is that the PS4 pre-orders (on COMG) were increasing more than the PS5 version in the last stretch.

The end of COMGelion. Boutros where are you?????

Eh, what the heck.

2023.09.03

1. NSW - Detective Pikachu Returns - 65

2. NSW - Super Mario Bros. Wonder - 43

3. NSW - Super Mario RPG - 40

4. NSW - Momotaro Electric Railway World ~The Earth Spins with Hope! - 14

5. NSW - Persona 5 Tactica - 9

6. PS5 - Persona 5 Tactica - 9

7. PS5 - Yakuza 7 Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name - 8

8. NSW - FREDERICA - 6

9. PS5 - Ys X -NORDICS- Normal Edition - 6

10. PS5 - Marvel's Spider-Man 2 (Regular Edition) - 5

11. NSW - Dragon Quest Monsters 3 Demon Prince and Elf's Journey Masters Edition - 5

12. PS5 - Fate/Samurai Remnant (Normal Edition) - 5

13. PS4 - Assassin's Creed Mirage - 5

14. NSW - The Quintessential Quintuplets ~Five Promises to Exchange with Her~ (Limited Edition) - 5

15. NSW - Dragon Quest Monsters 3 Demon Prince and Elf's Journey (Normal Edition) - 4

16. NSW - Fate/Samurai Remnant (Normal Edition) - 4

17. NSW - Infinity Strash Dragon Quest Dai no Daibouken - 4

18. PS4 - Ys X - NORDICS Normal Edition - 4

19. NSW - EA Sports FC24 - 3

20. NSW - Super Bomberman R2 - 3

Oh damn, did not expect that from detective pikachu

Huuuh ... did not expect that Detective Pikachu flex over two Mario games 🤣

2023.09.16

1. NSW - Super Mario Bros. Wonder - 100

2. NSW - Detective Pikachu Returns - 72

3. NSW - Super Mario RPG - 54

4. NSW - Momotaro Electric Railway World ~The earth spins with hope! - 19

5. PS5 - Yakuza 7 Gaiden - The Man Who Erased His Name - 12

6. NSW - Persona 5 Tactica - 10

7. PS5 - Persona 5 Tactica - 10

8. PS5 - Ys X NORDICS - Normal Version - 9

9. NSW - FREDERICA - 8

10. NSW - EA SPORTS FC24 - 7

11. PS4 - Yakuza 7 Gaiden - The Man Who Erased His Name - 7

12. PS5 - Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 6

13. NSW - Dragon Quest Monsters 3: Journey of the Demon Prince and the Elf (Regular Edition) - 6

14. NSW - Dragon Quest Monsters 3: Journey of the Demon Prince and the Elf (Master's Edition) - 6

15. PS4 - Assassin's Creed Mirage - 6

16. PS5 - Fate/Samurai Remnant - 5

17. NSW - Fate/Samurai Remnant - 5

18. NSW - Pikmin 1+2 - 5

19. PS5 - Infinity Slash Dragon Quest The Adventure of Dai - 5

20. NSW - Infinity Slash Dragon Quest The Adventure of Dai - 5