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2D Marios are (much like Kirby) the type of games where Nintendo puts zero effort and makes a crap ton of money. They have no reason to change that.



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Vodacixi said:
2D Marios are (much like Kirby) the type of games where Nintendo puts zero effort and makes a crap ton of money. They have no reason to change that.

After every kirby game I say I will never buy a kirby game again. I enjoyed crystal share when I was a kid on the 64 and end up buying them out of nostalgia. The last one on the switch I put about 20 minutes into it before losing interest. If nintendo can't innovate kirby they should just let the franchise die. 



RolStoppable said:
Salnax said:

No, and I can prove it.

Mario's canon height is 155 cm. In Super Mario World, Mario is 20 pixels tall when short, and 28 pixels tall when tall. This implies that short Mario in Super Mario World is about 110.7 cm tall. This study shows that Mario's running speed is 9.1 Small Mario's per second, which translates to 10.0737 meters per second.

In Super Mario 64, Mario is 161 in-game units tall. His maximum running speed is 48 units per frame. Since there are 30 frames per second in SM64, that's a speed of 1440 units per second, or about 14.957 meters per second.

Yes, if you compare running on a flat surface to running down a steep slope. With that level of spin you can go work for the Trump administration; they are always hiring, I've heard, because there's lots of turnover.

Interesting proposal, but I have no interest in being disowned.



Dyotropic said:
Vodacixi said:
2D Marios are (much like Kirby) the type of games where Nintendo puts zero effort and makes a crap ton of money. They have no reason to change that.

After every kirby game I say I will never buy a kirby game again. I enjoyed crystal share when I was a kid on the 64 and end up buying them out of nostalgia. The last one on the switch I put about 20 minutes into it before losing interest. If nintendo can't innovate kirby they should just let the franchise die. 

O_o... Like half of Kirby's games since 64 have revolved around unique or completely new mechanics.  Canvas Cusrse, Amazeing Mirror, Mass Attack, Epic Yarn, Rainbow Curse, Blowout Blast...



JWeinCom said:
Dyotropic said:

After every kirby game I say I will never buy a kirby game again. I enjoyed crystal share when I was a kid on the 64 and end up buying them out of nostalgia. The last one on the switch I put about 20 minutes into it before losing interest. If nintendo can't innovate kirby they should just let the franchise die. 

O_o... Like half of Kirby's games since 64 have revolved around unique or completely new mechanics.  Canvas Cusrse, Amazeing Mirror, Mass Attack, Epic Yarn, Rainbow Curse, Blowout Blast...

true + the 3ds games were great, only bad about regular 2d kirby games is that they are way too easy.



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ruffy37 said:
JWeinCom said:

O_o... Like half of Kirby's games since 64 have revolved around unique or completely new mechanics.  Canvas Cusrse, Amazeing Mirror, Mass Attack, Epic Yarn, Rainbow Curse, Blowout Blast...

true + the 3ds games were great, only bad about regular 2d kirby games is that they are way too easy.

I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing.  Not every game has to be for every player.  Although Star Allies was too easy even for its target audience. 



SKMBlake said:
DélioPT said:

Nintendo also celebrated the 30th anniversary and nothing big happened.

Well Mario Maker was the 30th anniversary celebration, a brand new game which can allow you to make your own Super Mario game, that's pretty big to me.

The game would come out no matter how old Mario would be.

This All-Stars 2, if you will, is something big.



Vodacixi said:
2D Marios are (much like Kirby) the type of games where Nintendo puts zero effort and makes a crap ton of money. They have no reason to change that.

Cmon now, just look at NSMBUD then look at Kirby Star Allies, they're clearly not the same tier.

SpokenTruth said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:
I know people want them all in one cartridge, but I'd only want to play Sunshine so I'd like to be able to buy it stand alone. While this rumor makes sense and is believable, I ain't putting much stock in it, we're still waiting for that Metroid Prime collection after all.

This one is even more solid the Nintendo Direct rumors. 

So what does that have to do with my post? You could have said that without quoting me, but since you did, I didn't say whether it was or wasn't more solid than the direct rumor as that's completely irrelevant. I get it, you don't like that I called you out before, but replying to me with useless nothings isn't gonna accomplish much.



Lonely_Dolphin said:
Vodacixi said:
2D Marios are (much like Kirby) the type of games where Nintendo puts zero effort and makes a crap ton of money. They have no reason to change that.

Cmon now, just look at NSMBUD then look at Kirby Star Allies, they're clearly not the same tier.

SpokenTruth said:

This one is even more solid the Nintendo Direct rumors. 

So what does that have to do with my post? You could have said that without quoting me, but since you did, I didn't say whether it was or wasn't more solid than the direct rumor as that's completely irrelevant. I get it, you don't like that I called you out before, but replying to me with useless nothings isn't gonna accomplish much.

Both series are known for being copy-pastes of the previous entries, with Kirby being slightly better in the visual department.

This is Planet Robotot on the 3DS:

This is Triple Deluxe, also on the 3DS:

This is Return to Dreamland on Wii:

It's not just about the graphics though. Kirby has been without significant changes since RtD. Why? Because just like 2D Mario, it's easier and cheaper to just keep doing small and cheap "copies" and sell them at full retail price than actually putting time, effort and money to make a better game that will make less money.

All these cheap to do games that sell at 60 dolars (2D Marios, Pokémon, Kirby games, Wii U ports, etc...) are the ones that pay the bills... and they also fund the bigger developements that don't make nearly as much money, but are necesary to keep fans happy and the brand relevant.

2D Mario won't change for the better because that would imply spending more money on it. And they don't want to do that.



my biggest wish for the 2d series would be a new art design. which good-feel nails every time. but something more like rayman origins, wario shake it or high res mario & luigi rpg art design.