sundin13 said:
Nautilus said:
The japanese seem to be pretty able to separate fiction from reality.You don't see them raping people because of their animes.That's what I mean.Just because someone represents something in a game, dosen't mean that humanity dosen't have the brain power to understand the right from wrong.
About your question: Yeah, absolutely.But in Persona case, personally, I don't think it was out of place because in my experience, that happens in real life.And I respect you guys for defending your point of view.But I'm just defending mine.
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I mean, first of all, sexual assault and mistreatment of women are both pretty big problems in Japan, but even if they weren't the issue isn't that someone might get raped in real life. The issue is two-fold: One is the propagation of attitudes towards rape and sexual assault, and the second is the in universe effects of generally weakening the characters and being a moment which may take readers out of the story because of poor characterization and poor attempts at humor.
As for my question, again, the issue is not the fact that the game portrayed something, the issue is how it was portrayed. You continue to exclusively speak about what is being portrayed, but that entirely misses the point.
I would also like to bring up something you said to someone else in this thread:
"Any kind of story that you want to tell, ANY kind, will end up hurting someone feeling.The difference is how many people you might end up insulting, and that's what matters in the end, in terms of backlash and whatnot."
I don't think this is anywhere close to being true. I don't think there is any CEO who plays FF7 and is personally offended because Shinra is evil...
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Bolded: That's just bad story telling.Whether they "charachterize" someone bad or not, bad story telling is bad story telling, no matter what politics or opinion one might have.
About your last sentence: Then why should someone be offended by something done in a game then?That my problem! You dont see a CEO being offended by Shinra being evil because you dont care about what the CEO thinks.But when it comes to something you care about, for example how hamburguers are displayed on the screen, then you start caring.
The same way that some people simply have issue with woman having big boobs and being sexy in games, but having nothing to say about the men in the same game being super muscular, viril and handsome. You won't bat an eye on a topic that dosen't offend you.That's my point.
What I mean, in the end, is that all this nonsense about my group or my subject not being well represented in games is that I dont want it to influence the game quality in the end.I dont care if the protagonist is male, female, trans, gay, a dog, a cat or an alien, as long as the developer cares about telling a good story more than he cares about passing his own agenda.Im assuming people are smart enough to understand the difference between reality and fiction.
Im not a fan of the censor they did in Persona 5 Royal, but at the same time is something so minor that it won't even come close to stopping myself from recommending what seems to be the better version of the game.It's just that I don't and will never approve this sort of thing just because someone dosen't like how someone was portrayed.
And about the how: Like I already answered you before, I don't have an issue, because that already happened with me before.I found it quite funny actually.So in my view, it's not like they were lying.And it's fiction, not that I would be insulted by that even if it wasn't realistic.