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forest-spirit said:
iron_megalith said:

Assuming that's the case. It is still inexcusable that to no fucking end, they keep saying "Oh we found "x" more ballots. More coming in!" after saying there's only a certain number of ballots left. Majority of them, mail-in ballots. And it's pretty obvious where that will skew. This shit is happening across a lot of the current contested states and it's becoming really questionable. It's like they magically keep finding a sack of ballots under their sofa.

Apparently the Democrats have a secret hide-out under a french bakery somewhere in Pittsburg, where kidnapped Canadian tourists are working 24/7 printing new ballots.

True story.

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forest-spirit said:
iron_megalith said:

Assuming that's the case. It is still inexcusable that to no fucking end, they keep saying "Oh we found "x" more ballots. More coming in!" after saying there's only a certain number of ballots left. Majority of them, mail-in ballots. And it's pretty obvious where that will skew. This shit is happening across a lot of the current contested states and it's becoming really questionable. It's like they magically keep finding a sack of ballots under their sofa.

Apparently the Democrats have a secret hide-out under a french bakery somewhere in Pittsburg, where kidnapped Canadian tourists are working 24/7 printing new ballots.

True story.

It's actually right next to the pizza place with the pedophiles.



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EnricoPallazzo said:
Dulfite said:

Honestly, I feel like this election result could be the one that calms America down. If it holds, Trump will be gone, but Biden will be the first President to not have the Senate and House of Reps since the 1800's when first elected. For at least two years, the only thing he will get accomplished will be bi-partisan things, and his nominees will have to be more moderate now. Also, with Republican control over the Senate, then the Supreme Court will be protected from a hostile takeover. So basically 1.5 branches will be Democrat controlled and 1.5 Republican, nice little balance there! No one side gets decimated and therefore forgotten for at least 2 years. Both sides will have a say in what happens until at least 2022.

I will be very difficult to calm everything down because republicans will say the election was stolen, and to be honest it seems to me they have all reasons for it. I like to lurk on progressive and alt right places to see both sides reactions and I dont know if progressives are having access or seeing all the problems with this election, it really reminds me of elections in my beloved south america. Or maybe just ignoring, I dont know. Conservatives would be probably doing the same. I think it would be much better for Biden to have a clean victory that could not be contested. It is just bad for democracy.

You are right about the problems of not having the senate and congress, it is terrible and this is one of the reasons I became supporter of parliamentary (like uk) and hope that Brazil one day would do it. You win the elections it means you have the house and can move forward with your reforms. Obama would probably have done much more than he did if he had both houses for example.

Obama did have both houses for his first two years, as did every other Democrat President since the 1880's. And those parliamentary styles have downsides. If we had that here, then Biden could win based on the fact that he had a bunch of never trumper conservatives voting for him. These people would not have properly been represented in government under that style government. Instead, we had never trumpers voting for Biden, but for conservatives on down-ballots, which more properly reflects their values. 

That style also can cause major issues with changing things too quickly and it can work against both parties. If we had that system of government then Trump would have had far more power in 2016-2018, and Obamacare would certainly be destroyed. Our republic was meant to work slowly on changes, and that is a very good thing. Rebellions and wars happen when change is made too quickly.



TruckOSaurus said:
Dulfite said:

Honestly, I feel like this election result could be the one that calms America down. If it holds, Trump will be gone, but Biden will be the first President to not have the Senate and House of Reps since the 1800's when first elected. For at least two years, the only thing he will get accomplished will be bi-partisan things, and his nominees will have to be more moderate now. Also, with Republican control over the Senate, then the Supreme Court will be protected from a hostile takeover. So basically 1.5 branches will be Democrat controlled and 1.5 Republican, nice little balance there! No one side gets decimated and therefore forgotten for at least 2 years. Both sides will have a say in what happens until at least 2022.

Didn't George H. W. Bush not have both the senate and the House too?

I was misinformed. It is the first time a Democrat President has been elected within Senate/House for their first term since the 1880's. Republicans have had the situation happen more recently, yes. My bad!



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sales2099 said:
Runa216 said:

I hope he loses, but I'm absolutely disgusted that, despite of (or because of) everything Trump did up to this point, people still have faith in him. Either all the bigotry and wild immaturity and lack of credentials wasn't a dealbreaker, or that's WHY they like him. Either his gross misconduct concerning Covid isn't important, or itis and they actively want the lax security and value their comfort over...you know, public health and safety. Either way, I fear for the country. I'd be ashamed to call myself American if I elected this unqualified, narcissistic, bigoted, immature brat for a president. 

I’m not American, nor do I like him as a person. If I were I’d vote Trump purely because he isn’t a democrat. Say what you will about his personality, he did a lot of things in his term. The economy was surging under his term. He is an alternative to the increasingly socialist policies of the dems. Russia/North Korea aren’t active threats anymore. Iran has been defanged with the general being assassinated along with pulling out of the nuclear deal. Killing the ISIS leader, reaching a stepping stone to peace with Israel and countries it conflicts with. 

Economy and foreign policy were his strengths. Covid response and border policy are his major faults...along with every unfiltered thing he says lol. 

I agree with everything you've said.  Except for the part about the border.  The wall is fine, as long as you still let people in.  The wall is there to keep the people who aren't willing to come here legally, out.  Why anyone would be for illegals coming into the country is crazy to me.



JWeinCom said:
forest-spirit said:

Apparently the Democrats have a secret hide-out under a french bakery somewhere in Pittsburg, where kidnapped Canadian tourists are working 24/7 printing new ballots.

True story.

Votes have been coming in through a mysterious wardrobe. Surprisingly, Narnia is very pro-Biden.

That's the Fake News Narnia! Alotta lotta lotta people are saying it! 



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JWeinCom said:
sales2099 said:

Each political spectrum has different cultural and social values, different priorities. That’s what you ultimately vote for. If someone you don’t like is the only option, so be it, because it’s better then supporting the other side. 

Italics: That’s nothing compared to Dems having media, and entertainment industry in their pocket vilifying conservatives every day for 4 years. Im seeing people in the media literally saying Cuban voters aren’t Latino because they voted Trump. That’s blatant intolerance of opinion. 

The second is not only factually sketchy, but completely dodging the point. 

So, let's focus on that first part.

Yes, what you vote for is representative of your values.

So, while one person on a message board doesn't fit your standard of tolerance, on the whole, there's no evidence that the Democrats are willing to endorse the kind of divisiveness embodied by Trump and many other prominent members of the republican party.

Basically, what I'm saying is that if you hold "random person on internet forum" to such high standards, you should probably hold equally high standards for the fucking president of the United States, and you should perhaps question the "tolerance" of those willing to vote for him, as vigorously as you're questioning the tolerance of the random person on the internet.

That is, if tolerance of the other party is important to you. If it's not, then fine. Just don't be a hypocrite and invoke "tolerance" to try and shut down criticism of republicans if you're not going to hold republicans to the same standard.

Agree to disagree. I feel the Dems have fostered far more division in this country via news and entertainment industry.  They have a narrative and push it hard. Trump isn’t a likeable person. At least I don’t have to listen to him if I don’t want to. 

I’m saying here in regards to tolerance to at the very least not lump everyone together. While it’s tempting to believe all dems endorse Antifa, cancel culture, and the burning/rioting that occurred in recent months, I know that most dems are actually decent people with simply a different set of values. 



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