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I personally crunched the numbers and came up with a 272 win for Biden. That's including the extremely close numbers in Nevada.
Don't think he's able to get Pennsylvania, Georgia or North Carolina but we'll see.

Last edited by Barozi - on 04 November 2020

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LurkerJ said:
Election is over. Trumps needs either Wisconsin or Michigan, but they're sky blue.

I wouldnt call them "sky blue" (that would be like a blow out victory).
If you beat the other guy by like 5% ultimately, thats not a huge win.

Still this looks like its whats gonna happend.
Joe is gonna take them, and win this election.

*edit:

The real question is weather Trump will accept a loss.
or try to legal his way out of it in courts, or somehow fight the peacefull transfer of power, thats supposed to happend.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 04 November 2020

sales2099 said:
vivster said:

For me it is all about policy, individuals do not matter unless they impact policy. The Republican party stands for every policy I don't like and think is anti human rights and anti democracy.

If I have to vote for either a man who will shoot me instantly dead or a man who will slap me every day I will immediately vote the slapping guy. I will not question the slapping guy's morals, I will not try to dig up dirt on him and I will not care about anything the shooting guy says. I will vote for Slappy because Slappy will not kill me immediately. Me not being dead trumps every single thing Shooty could offer me.

Well if that’s how you feel about policy then that’s fair.

Otherwise I assume you speaking of police treatment of African Americans, sounds like your beef is with corrupt officers. Police reform is something both dems and reps believe in. The defunding aspect is where it gets messy, as it prevents the good ones from solving crimes without proper funding.

But alas, guess we’ll see soon enough who pulls through. 

Actually I wasn't alluding to that at all. Police brutality is a systemic issue that's far beyond the systemic racism in the country.

What I was saying was that there are lots and lots of things the Republican party does and supports that are completely incompatible with my sense of morals and justice. So many things that it is basically irrelevant what the other party does as long as they're not an exact copy or strictly worse in those same issues.

For example, here in Germany the leading party and the party which I'm politically most aligned with is the CDU (Christian Democratic Union). I will not vote for them until they lose the C in their name because I cannot vote with good conscience for people who mix religion with politics. A thing that the Republican party is especially guilty about. But that's also because I have more choice and voting in Germany doesn't matter as much because we don't have to fear an extremist leader.

In the US I wouldn't have that luxury. But I will not stoop as low as some morons and equate the two parties because "they're both bad". They both are bad but it's not at all equal. You always pick the lesser evil. It doesn't matter if the lesser evil is evil. It's still better. I would absolutely vote for the candidate who says he will merge the church with the state when my only other choice is a a candidate who will just outright kill me. I would not vote a 3rd party and I would not abstain from voting. I would do what's best. And the best is always to vote for the lesser evil and then hope each cycle there will be another lesser evil to vote for.



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Bofferbrauer2 said:
If Biden can keep Nevada and Wisconsin, and flip Michigan now, then he's as exactly 270 electoral votes and has won the election

How do you get exactly 270?

Have the two winners of the congressional district in Maine already been added to Biden's total?



uran10 said:
vivster said:

I don't think it's necessarily Biden's fault. Sanders or Warren wouldn't have fared better. It doesn't really matter who runs when there are people who refuse to vote for an individual who essentially wants the same thing as everyone else in his party just because they don't like the cut of his jib. And anyone who would vote for Trump rather than literally any other human is lost anyway.

There are a bunch of popular policy ideas that the people in general support. Biden has come out multiple times over to say he doesn't support them. He has even gone on record to say he would veto M4A. He's offering nothing.

He's offering more than any possible alternative. Voting for him as a left leaning individual is without alternative.



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. close real getting Nevada



Barozi said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:
If Biden can keep Nevada and Wisconsin, and flip Michigan now, then he's as exactly 270 electoral votes and has won the election

How do you get exactly 270?

Have the two winners of the congressional district in Maine already been added to Biden's total?

Yes, I got 238 with them.

+6 for Nevada = 244

+10 Wisconsin =254

+16 Michigan = 270



Cobretti2 said:
EnricoPallazzo said:

Biden will flip at least Michigan and Wisconsin and win most likely.

It will probably got o court though as those states received tons of ballots today in the morning, the vast majority for Joe Biden. 

What is that implying? Cheating? Someone made up votes?

Well Biden himself said they created the largest fraud scheme ever so I'm not the one saying it.

But if the decision based on a small difference, especially considering cases when out of a sudden you have a jump in 130k ballots for Biden in WI, I think it is worth taking a look at it. Also it depends on the courts decisions on what was the rule about ballots arriving after election day.

You can be sure the democrats would do the same if it was the opposite.



JRPGfan said:
LurkerJ said:
PA update:

The newly reported ~65,000 mail ballots appear to have broken down roughly like this:

~61,000 for Biden
~3,900 for Trump


It looks like Biden is in much stronger position to win

Isnt the current vote in PA hugely in favor of Trump?
Joe Biden has to make up like 700,000 votes, so unless there is like a million or more votes by mail not counted yet, that should go to Trump no?

Biden is behind by 700k votes, but there are about 1.4M absentee votes to be counted, where Biden so far won with about a 10:1 margin. If the rest of the absentee votes have a similar margin, then Biden will win the election in the state by about 400k votes.



jason1637 said:
. close real getting Nevada

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