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Radek said:

Another thread name calling Trump... whatever he does is wrong in liberals eyes.

He could literally cure cancer and he still would be called a bigot misogynist racist transphobic orange clown by Twitter checkmarks.

Instead of a non-defense defense, why not share why you think criticism is unfounded?
For example:

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Is part of gus plan naking people work during a pandemic?



DonFerrari said:
Mnementh said:

Flu has a mortality rate of 0.1%. COVID-19 has so far shown mortality rates between 0.5% and 4%. Also COVID-19 is far more infectious. So yes, if we contain the virus at less than 1 million infected worldwide, it will have lesser victims. But it has the potential to get much worse than the flu if not contained. And we must contain it now, but each day passing makes containment ever more difficult.

There is also the risk that COVID-19 can become endemic like the flu, which means it comes back each year. This would be pretty bad, because of the higher mortality rate.

Corona virus have been know for 90 years, so it is somewhat endemic and will come back and forth.

And again not denying it is critical and needs attention, but it is getting on the paranoia more than anything. Total shutdown in several places, ban on more than few folks being near one another (in Brazil a city is demanding that every local place have tables 6ft of one another), market crashing (like 30% loss in a single week), etc.

Flu at 40x less motality and much less infectious per your claim kill about 40k people per year in USA 400M population. On 1B china it killed 4k in 3 months. Seems like we need to be more paranoid over regular flu.

It killed only 4000 people in China, because China contained it fast and decisive. With great effort. It only affected 80K people, not 1 billion. So you can make your own off the cuff calculation about the victim count if not contained.

Also Corona virus is a family of viruses. SARS and MERS are also Corona viruses. That's why it is more accurate to talk about COVID-19. COVID-19 isn't endemic (yet). It will become endemic if not contained, and that would put the flu at the bckburner as the lesser threat.



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Radek said:

Another thread name calling Trump... whatever he does is wrong in liberals eyes.

He could literally cure cancer and he still would be called a bigot misogynist racist transphobic orange clown by Twitter checkmarks.

Well, him finding a cure for cancer wouldn't change the fact he's a bigot misogynist racist trans-phobic orange clown.

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TruckOSaurus said:
Radek said:

Another thread name calling Trump... whatever he does is wrong in liberals eyes.

He could literally cure cancer and he still would be called a bigot misogynist racist transphobic orange clown by Twitter checkmarks.

Well, him finding a cure for cancer wouldn't change the fact he's a bigot misogynist racist trans-phobic orange clown.

Did site admin just say this? Maybe I really should leave this site...



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TruckOSaurus said:
Radek said:

Another thread name calling Trump... whatever he does is wrong in liberals eyes.

He could literally cure cancer and he still would be called a bigot misogynist racist transphobic orange clown by Twitter checkmarks.

Well, him finding a cure for cancer wouldn't change the fact he's a bigot misogynist racist trans-phobic orange clown.

I like you Truck and all but...

If it were any other user saying this it would be ban-worthy.Or at least there would be a warning.Just saying it.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Nautilus said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Well, him finding a cure for cancer wouldn't change the fact he's a bigot misogynist racist trans-phobic orange clown.

I like you Truck and all but...

If it were any other user saying this it would be ban-worthy.Or at least there would be a warning.Just saying it.

Is there a rule about calling Trump names that I'm unaware of?



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Torillian said:
Nautilus said:

I like you Truck and all but...

If it were any other user saying this it would be ban-worthy.Or at least there would be a warning.Just saying it.

Is there a rule about calling Trump names that I'm unaware of?

Wouldn't it be considered flamming, on a topic that even the mods acknowledge as sensitive?(There is even an official thread made in order to contain it as far as I know)Especially since he used 6 different insults?

Or at least acting in bad faith?At least that's how I see it.Gotta really give the rules a second read.

What I mean is: I have seen people banned for less, and I have receive a warning for less too.

If it were something along the lines of "Trump is someone I can't trust because of all the horrible things he did during his mandate" and give examples, that's ok because then it would be arguing.But this is just slander and baiting in my view, especially since the original user wasn't even responding to no one and wasn't even trying to take a shot at the other candidate.In another words, he came in good faith.

But again, personal opinion. Didn't even report.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Nautilus said:
Torillian said:

Is there a rule about calling Trump names that I'm unaware of?

Wouldn't it be considered flamming, on a topic that even the mods acknowledge as sensitive?(There is even an official thread made in order to contain it as far as I know)Especially since he used 6 different insults?

Or at least acting in bad faith?At least that's how I see it.Gotta really give the rules a second read.

What I mean is: I have seen people banned for less, and I have receive a warning for less too.

If it were something along the lines of "Trump is someone I can't trust because of all the horrible things he did during his mandate" and give examples, that's ok because then it would be arguing.But this is just slander and baiting in my view, especially since the original user wasn't even responding to no one and wasn't even trying to take a shot at the other candidate.In another words, he came in good faith.

But again, personal opinion. Didn't even report.

Well if we want to take issue with someone bringing this topic into the thread we can blame the post that Truck was replying to.

And Truck's right, Trump can simultaneously cure cancer and be "a bigot misogynist racist transphobic orange clown". These things are not mutually exclusive. Terrible, gross people can do good things and still suck as people. How would curing cancer have an effect on him being a bigot, mysogynist, racist, transphobic orange clown? 



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Torillian said:
Nautilus said:

Wouldn't it be considered flamming, on a topic that even the mods acknowledge as sensitive?(There is even an official thread made in order to contain it as far as I know)Especially since he used 6 different insults?

Or at least acting in bad faith?At least that's how I see it.Gotta really give the rules a second read.

What I mean is: I have seen people banned for less, and I have receive a warning for less too.

If it were something along the lines of "Trump is someone I can't trust because of all the horrible things he did during his mandate" and give examples, that's ok because then it would be arguing.But this is just slander and baiting in my view, especially since the original user wasn't even responding to no one and wasn't even trying to take a shot at the other candidate.In another words, he came in good faith.

But again, personal opinion. Didn't even report.

Well if we want to take issue with someone bringing this topic into the thread we can blame the post that Truck was replying to.

And Truck's right, Trump can simultaneously cure cancer and be "a bigot misogynist racist transphobic orange clown". These things are not mutually exclusive. Terrible, gross people can do good things and still suck as people. How would curing cancer have an effect on him being a bigot, mysogynist, racist, transphobic orange clown? 

Because being that what you just describe is relative, as I personally don't think that he fit in any of those descriptions.And you don't need to use those words to describe a person, especially if you want to have a discussion, a nice conversation about a heated topic. I mean, I could say that any socialist is an idiot, but that wouldn't be productive, would it?

Just to be sure, if calling Trump that is ok, can I go to any other political thread and call Biden, Sanders or any other politician the same thing, without any argumentation or text to speak of, and be ok with the rules?Because that would be awesome.No disrespect to anyone, just making sure.

About the bolded: Well you could, even if he wasn't refering to anyone here especifically, but then you would have to take the issue with the one that not only continued, but doubled down on the problem, don't you guys?Or is it ok for someone to be rude, but not the other?Because if what the original poster wrote was considered baiting/flaiming, well Truck certainly isn't above that.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1