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SpokenTruth said:

Who said this?

hahah you expect me to remember the names of random twitter or  reddit users? i only use youtube and ive seen plenty of videos covering the topic and when trump did the China travel ban one of those videos was in part adressing the reaction on twitter/reddit (dont remember which of the two), with people saying he was over reacting or straight up saying it was a racist move.

If i remembered the video in question i would post it here but that was like a month ago and ive seen dozens of those some of them being lives streams over 2 hours long, could have been one of the many livestreams done by Metokur or something by memology etc...

To put it into context.

Back then when the virus was only in China, South Korea and Japan there was concerns that this virus would lead to racism towards asians, and there was even articles about it like this one, this one and this one there was even a video (either something done by a content creator or something made by a company) trying to combat this racism, it consisted of a asian man in the streets of Italy, wearing a mask and holding a sign that said something along the lines of "im asian and im not responsible for the coronavirus, im not infected either!", and during the video people would come over to him and hug him showing him love and acceptance, and that video came out one week before the virus outbreak in italy (as if a cruel joke from god) obviously im not saying that guy had the virus just pointing out the irony of the whole situation.

FUCKING FOUND THE VIDEO (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lULceASXv88)

What im trying to prove here is that there was a movement just a month ago (before this shit got serious outside of china) that had some people concerned about this creating racism towards asians, and back then when trump implemented the travel ban i saw a video showing some of the reactions on social media and there was people saying it was a "racist"  and exaggerated move.

EDIT: Hey to prove my point further (n my search for the articles above) i just found an article about trumps chinese travel ban and in the comments (just as i said before) there are people calling him a racist for doing it and saying that he is over reacting.

here is the article  

here are some of the comments

To be clear these ARE NOT the comments i saw a month ago, those were either from twitter or reddit (cant remember at this point) and i think it should go without saying it was more than just a couple of comments... but regardless there you go! proof of people calling him a racist over the travel ban and saying he is over reacting.



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estebxx said:
SpokenTruth said:

Who said this?

hahah you expect me to remember the names of random twitter or  reddit users? i only use youtube and ive seen plenty of videos covering the topic and when trump did the China travel ban one of those videos was in part adressing the reaction on twitter/reddit (dont remember which of the two), with people saying he was over reacting or straight up saying it was a racist move.

If i remembered the video in question i would post it here but that was like a month ago and ive seen dozens of those some of them being lives streams over 2 hours long, could have been one of the many livestreams done by Metokur or something by memology etc...

To put it into context.

Back then when the virus was only in China, South Korea and Japan there was concerns that this virus would lead to racism towards asians, and there was even articles about it like this one, this one and this one there was even a video (either something done by a content creator or something made by a company) trying to combat this racism, it consisted of a asian man in the streets of Italy, wearing a mask and holding a sign that said something along the lines of "im asian and im not responsible for the coronavirus, im not infected either!", and during the video people would come over to him and hug him showing him love and acceptance, and that video came out one week before the virus outbreak in italy (as if a cruel joke from god) obviously im not saying that guy had the virus just pointing out the irony of the whole situation.

FUCKING FOUND THE VIDEO (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lULceASXv88)

What im trying to prove here is that there was a movement just a month ago (before this shit got serious outside of china) that had some people concerned about this creating racism towards asians, and back then when trump implemented the travel ban i saw a video showing some of the reactions on social media and there was people saying it was a "racist"  and exaggerated move.

EDIT: Hey to prove my point further (n my search for the articles above) i just found an article about trumps chinese travel ban and in the comments (just as i said before) there are people calling him a racist for doing it and saying that he is over reacting.

here is the article  

here are some of the comments

To be clear these ARE NOT the comments i saw a month ago, those were either from twitter or reddit (cant remember at this point) and i think it should go without saying it was more than just a couple of comments... but regardless there you go! proof of people calling him a racist over the travel ban and saying he is over reacting.

I think your main issue is you are ascribing something to a group that can only be proven for individuals (hypocrisy). So you would now have to show these same users saying that the Europe ban was too late. Otherwise these are just different people with different values and conclusions which are not necessarily hypocritical. 



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estebxx said:
SpokenTruth said:

Who said this?

hahah you expect me to remember the names of random twitter or  reddit users? i only use youtube and ive seen plenty of videos covering the topic and when trump did the China travel ban one of those videos was in part adressing the reaction on twitter/reddit (dont remember which of the two), with people saying he was over reacting or straight up saying it was a racist move.

If i remembered the video in question i would post it here but that was like a month ago and ive seen dozens of those some of them being lives streams over 2 hours long, could have been one of the many livestreams done by Metokur or something by memology etc...

To put it into context.

Back then when the virus was only in China, South Korea and Japan there was concerns that this virus would lead to racism towards asians, and there was even articles about it like this one, this one and this one there was even a video (either something done by a content creator or something made by a company) trying to combat this racism, it consisted of a asian man in the streets of Italy, wearing a mask and holding a sign that said something along the lines of "im asian and im not responsible for the coronavirus, im not infected either!", and during the video people would come over to him and hug him showing him love and acceptance, and that video came out one week before the virus outbreak in italy (as if a cruel joke from god) obviously im not saying that guy had the virus just pointing out the irony of the whole situation.

FUCKING FOUND THE VIDEO (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lULceASXv88)

What im trying to prove here is that there was a movement just a month ago (before this shit got serious outside of china) that had some people concerned about this creating racism towards asians, and back then when trump implemented the travel ban i saw a video showing some of the reactions on social media and there was people saying it was a "racist"  and exaggerated move.

EDIT: Hey to prove my point further (n my search for the articles above) i just found an article about trumps chinese travel ban and in the comments (just as i said before) there are people calling him a racist for doing it and saying that he is over reacting.

here is the article  

here are some of the comments

To be clear these ARE NOT the comments i saw a month ago, those were either from twitter or reddit (cant remember at this point) and i think it should go without saying it was more than just a couple of comments... but regardless there you go! proof of people calling him a racist over the travel ban and saying he is over reacting.

The video and related media are more about other people being racist rather than calling Trump himself racist for the travel ban.

The comments you linked, now those are in line with your original post.  And as expected, it's your typical online idiots.  

I asked "who said this" because there is a vast difference from the reaction now and the reaction then.  As you noted, it was largely people commenting on Twitter or Reddit calling him racist.  Now it's a large portion of the population, the media, experts, etc... all saying his actions are late. The experts, media, etc...were not calling him racist for the Chinese travel ban.  My point is that it's not really the same people.  Fringe commenters online vs experts in virology and immunology.



Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

Torillian said:

I think your main issue is you are ascribing something to a group that can only be proven for individuals (hypocrisy). So you would now have to show these same users saying that the Europe ban was too late. Otherwise these are just different people with different values and conclusions which are not necessarily hypocritical. 

I think your main issue is not understanding what i said in my original post, of course im not implying that its the same people i think thats obvious and should go without saying... (although i wouldnt be surprised if that was the case with some people).

If you go to my original post, all i am saying is that i am having a good laugh at seeing people reacting negatively to everything he does.

EDIT: maybe i should have been extra clear in my OP so that people like you dont end up making that assumption.



estebxx said:
Torillian said:

I think your main issue is you are ascribing something to a group that can only be proven for individuals (hypocrisy). So you would now have to show these same users saying that the Europe ban was too late. Otherwise these are just different people with different values and conclusions which are not necessarily hypocritical. 

I think your main issue is not understanding what i said in myu original post, of course im not implying that its the same people i think thats obvious and should go without saying...(although i wouldnt be surprised if that was the case with some people).

If you go to my original post, all i am saying is that i am having a good laugh at seeing people reacting negatively to everything he does.

In that regard, there are just as many people that react positively to everything he does.



Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

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SpokenTruth said:
estebxx said:

I think your main issue is not understanding what i said in myu original post, of course im not implying that its the same people i think thats obvious and should go without saying...(although i wouldnt be surprised if that was the case with some people).

If you go to my original post, all i am saying is that i am having a good laugh at seeing people reacting negatively to everything he does.

In that regard, there are just as many people that react positively to everything he does.

Yeah i know, about half of the country loves him

I bet he is going to win come November, unless the ecomony goes down the shitter which now seems possible due to Corona chan, will have to wait and see how bad it gets.

OH! and i hope (although i doubt it at this point) that bernie wins the Dems race because Trump V Bernie seems far more entertaining than Trump V Biden.

Last edited by estebxx - on 13 March 2020

estebxx said:
Torillian said:

I think your main issue is you are ascribing something to a group that can only be proven for individuals (hypocrisy). So you would now have to show these same users saying that the Europe ban was too late. Otherwise these are just different people with different values and conclusions which are not necessarily hypocritical. 

I think your main issue is not understanding what i said in my original post, of course im not implying that its the same people i think thats obvious and should go without saying... (although i wouldnt be surprised if that was the case with some people).

If you go to my original post, all i am saying is that i am having a good laugh at seeing people reacting negatively to everything he does.

EDIT: maybe i should have been extra clear in my OP so that people like you dont end up making that assumption.

mmm....alright I'll just have to take your word for it. 



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estebxx said:
Torillian said:

I think your main issue is you are ascribing something to a group that can only be proven for individuals (hypocrisy). So you would now have to show these same users saying that the Europe ban was too late. Otherwise these are just different people with different values and conclusions which are not necessarily hypocritical. 

I think your main issue is not understanding what i said in my original post, of course im not implying that its the same people i think thats obvious and should go without saying... (although i wouldnt be surprised if that was the case with some people).

If you go to my original post, all i am saying is that i am having a good laugh at seeing people reacting negatively to everything he does.

EDIT: maybe i should have been extra clear in my OP so that people like you dont end up making that assumption.

Your post:

"Its fucking hilarious honestly, last time i checked he was a fucking racist and over reacting for suspending travel from china like a month ago, and now when he bans travel from europe like a month later the reaction is "he didnt act fast enough!"

If the same person said both those things, I can see that hypocrisy being funny. But what makes different opinions from different people funny?

If someone has been a hypocrite, by all means call them out for it. Tag them and tell them what they said.
Don't imply hypocrisy among a group instead of individuals, based on nothing they said. 

Last edited by Hiku - on 13 March 2020

mexicanparrot said:

I hope people will see how Bernie Sanders leads in times of panic and actually vote for the damn guy. I'm sorry, I'm tired of people throwing away a great opportunity to bring positive change to the United States. Trump and Biden are not answers to problems, but actually the cause of problems.

Trump is actually the symptom of America's problems. Almost 30 plus years of Neoliberalism/corporate takeover of congress lead to Trump.



Proud to be a Californian.

Hiku said:

Your post:

"Its fucking hilarious honestly, last time i checked he was a fucking racist and over reacting for suspending travel from china like a month ago, and now when he bans travel from europe like a month later the reaction is "he didnt act fast enough!"

If the same person said both those things, I can see that hypocrisy being funny. But what makes different opinions from different people funny?

If someone has been a hypocrite, by all means call them out for it. Tag them and tell them what they said.
Don't imply hypocrisy among a group instead of individuals, based on nothing they said. 

I dont find hypocrisy funny i find it disgusting, whats funny to me is that no matter what he does he seems to get negative reactions, and by that i mean more negative reactions than most presidents ive ever seen.