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SuaveSocialist said:
Eagle367 said:

Screw reviewers judge movies by asking people who have similar tastes as you. 

DC lost that privilege with Phase 1 of the Snyderverse.  Until they redeem themselves with consistent critical acclaim, I have no time for them.

That's a really strange metric mate. I mean wonder woman, aquaman, Shazam, joker and now Birds of prey have all been any where from decent to classic. None have been bad. So you didn't watch joker because of this metric as well?



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Eagle367 said:
SuaveSocialist said:

DC lost that privilege with Phase 1 of the Snyderverse.  Until they redeem themselves with consistent critical acclaim, I have no time for them.

That's a really strange metric mate. I mean wonder woman, aquaman, Shazam, joker and now Birds of prey have all been any where from decent to classic. None have been bad. So you didn't watch joker because of this metric as well?

My coworkers and I are all in the same boat as him. We all skipped joker due to how bad DC films have been in the past. Also, WW and Aquaman are the best DCEU films.... however, they were still boring and dull. Shazam was just bad.



Eagle367 said:
SuaveSocialist said:

DC lost that privilege with Phase 1 of the Snyderverse.  Until they redeem themselves with consistent critical acclaim, I have no time for them.

That's a really strange metric mate. I mean wonder woman, aquaman, Shazam, joker and now Birds of prey have all been any where from decent to classic. None have been bad. So you didn't watch joker because of this metric as well?

It may seem strange, but it's the metric DC earned.  Had Phase 1 crapped out four unwatchable insults against the artistic medium of cinema, they'd owe me four consecutive critical hits.  And until they redeem themselves, they run the risk of raising my standards if another certifiably Rotten movie is added to their body of work. 

Wonder Woman was indeed a great movie.  I'm glad to have seen it before Justice League convinced me to put DC on probation.  Didn't watch Aquaman.  Didn't watch Shazam.  Didn't watch Joker.  Didn't watch Birds of Prey.  Won't watch Wonder Woman 1984.  Won't watch The Batman. If DC resets the clock (again), I'll keep giving their movies a hard pass.  

Their individual quality, be it real or imagined by yourself, is unimportant.  



SuaveSocialist said:
COKTOE said:

Rotten Tomatoes seems to be flying pretty fast and loose with the term "certified". To me, especially lately, they seem like a dog that I wouldn't trust to lick it's own asshole.

I had no idea.  Then it's settled: DC owes me three consecutive movies that are Certified Fresh and rated 80% or higher on the tomatometer.  

Birds of Prey is on the razor's edge; I'll have to make sure it hasn't fallen below that threshold when Wonder Woman is released.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's now down to 79%.  Well, that didn't take long.



DarthJarvis said:
Eagle367 said:

That's a really strange metric mate. I mean wonder woman, aquaman, Shazam, joker and now Birds of prey have all been any where from decent to classic. None have been bad. So you didn't watch joker because of this metric as well?

My coworkers and I are all in the same boat as him. We all skipped joker due to how bad DC films have been in the past. Also, WW and Aquaman are the best DCEU films.... however, they were still boring and dull. Shazam was just bad.

You missed out on one of the movies of the year because of this nonsense? Also if you think Shazam is bad and WW and Aquaman are full, them DCEU isn't for you. That's fine it's not for everyone, but it doesn't mean it's objectively bad like suicide squad. Though I would say, as an exception to your weird metric, go watch joker NOW



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SuaveSocialist said:
Eagle367 said:

That's a really strange metric mate. I mean wonder woman, aquaman, Shazam, joker and now Birds of prey have all been any where from decent to classic. None have been bad. So you didn't watch joker because of this metric as well?x

It may seem strange, but it's the metric DC earned.  Had Phase 1 crapped out four unwatchable insults against the artistic medium of cinema, they'd owe me four consecutive critical hits.  And until they redeem themselves, they run the risk of raising my standards if another certifiably Rotten movie is added to their body of work. 

Wonder Woman was indeed a great movie.  I'm glad to have seen it before Justice League convinced me to put DC on probation.  Didn't watch Aquaman.  Didn't watch Shazam.  Didn't watch Joker.  Didn't watch Birds of Prey.  Won't watch Wonder Woman 1984.  Won't watch The Batman. If DC resets the clock (again), I'll keep giving their movies a hard pass.  

Their individual quality, be it real or imagined by yourself, is unimportant.  

Your weird metric aside, go watch Joker NOW. It's one of the movies of the year. It's not even DCEU so your metric shouldn't stand in this case. Of you didn't watch joker, are you gonna skip out on all of the animated DC movies? And all of the WB movies?  I would say you are only hurting yourself here by skipping out on enjoyable movies and again, go watch Joker NOW. You won't regret it.



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Alright, I saw it. Now with the important qualification that I don't personally follow comic books these days to have any perspective on how true or untrue this title is to any corresponding comics, my take was that Birds of Prey is not a masterpiece. It is not a deep movie. It is, however, a fun movie! I laughed more than I thought I would. I especially enjoyed the parts where Margot Robbie spoke directly to the audience.

In other words, it's basically what I expected it to be: a zany, goofy movie celebrating female friendship. That's all. If you're up for that, you'll like it. If you're looking for something more, you won't find it here. One thing's for sure though: this movie is objectively better-made and more enjoyable than its predecessor, Suicide Squad, by leaps and bounds.

It doesn't shock me that the Birds of Prey met with a weak opening weekend (relative to expectations, that is). Opening weekend ticket sales are a reflection of pre-release hype and it's no surprise to me that demand for a sequel to a film people (myself included) broadly disliked was low from the outset. However, it has been better-received than Suicide Squad by those who have watched it so far. Perhaps then positive word of mouth will build more interest over time and translate into Birds of Prey "having long legs", as the cinephiles say. We'll see.

Last edited by Jaicee - on 14 February 2020

Jaicee said:

Alright, I saw it. Now with the important qualification that I don't personally follow comic books these days to have any perspective on how true or untrue this title is to any corresponding comics, my take was that Birds of Prey is not a masterpiece. It is not a deep movie. It is, however, a fun movie! I laughed more than I thought I would. I especially enjoyed the parts where Margot Robbie spoke directly to the audience.

In other words, it's basically what I expected it to be: a zany, goofy movie celebrating female friendship. That's all. If you're up for that, you'll like it. If you're looking for something more, you won't find it here. One thing's for sure though: this movie is objectively better-made and more enjoyable than its predecessor, Suicide Squad, by leaps and bounds.

It doesn't shock me that the Birds of Prey met with a weak opening weekend (relative to expectations, that is). Opening weekend ticket sales are a reflection of pre-release hype and it's no surprise to me that demand for a sequel to a film people (myself included) broadly disliked was low from the outset. However, it has been better-received than Suicide Squad by those who have watched it so far. Perhaps then positive word of mouth will build more interest over time and translate into Birds of Prey "having long legs", as the cinephiles say. We'll see.

Exactly what I've been telling people. Not every movie has to be Joker level or 1917 or parasite, you can just have fun movies. People are overly critical these days and I just watched sonic, which was a fun time. But a guy next to me went critic mode and wanted me to say it was bad, which it wasn't. When a movie is made to be fun and it is, that's not a bad movie. Just learn to have fun is a message people seem to forget these days, 



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Eagle367 said:

Exactly what I've been telling people. Not every movie has to be Joker level or 1917 or parasite, you can just have fun movies. People are overly critical these days and I just watched sonic, which was a fun time. But a guy next to me went critic mode and wanted me to say it was bad, which it wasn't. When a movie is made to be fun and it is, that's not a bad movie. Just learn to have fun is a message people seem to forget these days, 

Exactly. It accomplishes what it sets out to do, and I find what it sets out to do agreeable enough.



Eagle367 said:
SuaveSocialist said:

It may seem strange, but it's the metric DC earned.  Had Phase 1 crapped out four unwatchable insults against the artistic medium of cinema, they'd owe me four consecutive critical hits.  And until they redeem themselves, they run the risk of raising my standards if another certifiably Rotten movie is added to their body of work. 

Wonder Woman was indeed a great movie.  I'm glad to have seen it before Justice League convinced me to put DC on probation.  Didn't watch Aquaman.  Didn't watch Shazam.  Didn't watch Joker.  Didn't watch Birds of Prey.  Won't watch Wonder Woman 1984.  Won't watch The Batman. If DC resets the clock (again), I'll keep giving their movies a hard pass.  

Their individual quality, be it real or imagined by yourself, is unimportant.  

Your weird metric aside, go watch Joker NOW. It's one of the movies of the year. It's not even DCEU so your metric shouldn't stand in this case. Of you didn't watch joker, are you gonna skip out on all of the animated DC movies? And all of the WB movies?  I would say you are only hurting yourself here by skipping out on enjoyable movies and again, go watch Joker NOW. You won't regret it. 

No.  I'm not going to watch it.  I already explained what needs to happen first.

Yes, I'm going to skip out on them.  DC movies are DC movies.  Snyderverse, animated, WB...makes no difference.  If I'm to choose between one continuity and another...I'd rather not choose at all. 

No, I'm not hurting myself.  I am perfectly capable of enjoying my free time without setting any of it aside for DC.  There are a great number of enjoyable movies that I can watch instead, and the experience of watching them is not diminished just because I'll choose them over DC movies.  To the contrary, my decision seems to be hurting you.  For some reason, you appear to be more emotionally invested in which movies I don't watch than I am.

Again, no.  I'm not going to watch it.  Typing this comment was worthy of time.  DC movies are not worthy of my time, and they won't be for at least another year.