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ryuzaki57 said:
cycycychris said: 

I'm hyped about the revival of the Wonderful 101, what about you guys? Apparently Platinum and Nintendo are co-owners of the IP, Platinum likely bought Nintendo's half.

Could they buy Nintendo's half in Bayonetta 2? I would throw my whole bank account in a Bayonetta 2 Kickstarter for PS4.

Highly unlikely to basicly near impossible. Nintendo is funding Bayo 3, they still have an interest into the series. They have no interest in wonder 101 anymore.  Plus bayo is worth a ton of money, unlike W101, which was a financial flop. Miles well put your money towards a switch.



     

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Wonderful 101 looks like a fun game. I hope the Kickstarter is successful (if this rumor is true).



SEGA owns the Bayo IP. Nintendo owns the code for 2 and 3. So not even SEGA can put Bayo 2 on anything else if they wanted. They likely would have to remake the game using new code and assets. That aint going to happen. I feel like this sis 2014 still.



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RolStoppable said:
Sounds so farfetched. Nintendo would be more likely to just hoard the IP than sell it. And if Platinum had the money to buy the rights from Nintendo, then they should have had the money to port the game without a kickstarter too. They'd first have to buy the rights before they can start a kickstarter and that comes with the risk that the kickstarter doesn't bring in enough money to finance the port(s), so the money spent on the rights would be wasted. But it's Kamiya's brainchild, so maybe the financial risk didn't matter too much.

I'm not sure Nintendo would have to sell the IP. Yu Suzuki licensed Shenmue 3 from SEGA, who still own the IP.

But the Kickstarter part sounds pretty questionable. Even more so now after Platinum secured the Tencent investment.



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TomaTito said:

Do Playstation owners even want this game?

Doesn't it have too much colours?

You win the internet for the day!

#artsylesovergraphics



Hiku said:
RolStoppable said:
Sounds so farfetched. Nintendo would be more likely to just hoard the IP than sell it. And if Platinum had the money to buy the rights from Nintendo, then they should have had the money to port the game without a kickstarter too. They'd first have to buy the rights before they can start a kickstarter and that comes with the risk that the kickstarter doesn't bring in enough money to finance the port(s), so the money spent on the rights would be wasted. But it's Kamiya's brainchild, so maybe the financial risk didn't matter too much.

I'm not sure Nintendo would have to sell the IP. Yu Suzuki licensed Shenmue 3 from SEGA, who still own the IP.

But the Kickstarter part sounds pretty questionable. Even more so now after Platinum secured the Tencent investment.

The investment is probably more for bigger, future projects, rather than for rereleasing previous games. 



My bet with The_Liquid_Laser: I think the Switch won't surpass the PS2 as the best selling system of all time. If it does, I'll play a game of a list that The_Liquid_Laser will provide, I will have to play it for 50 hours or complete it, whatever comes first. 

This rumor is dumb for a plethora of reasons.

* Certain areas of the game require the double screen setup of the Wii U to function properly. Technically, they can also be played in a screen-in-screen fashsion, but this is cumbersome. 
* Nobody knows how much of a success TW101 on the Switch was in the first place. We know half a million sales but we don't know neither the costs of production nor the sales expectations. Calling it a flop is nothing but a good guess with nothing to back it up.
* Wii U re-releases tend to do pretty well on the Switch and give the games a second spring.
* Nintendo and Platinum have a good relationship with one another so if Platinum really wanted to do it, I highly doubt that Nintendo wouldn't handle the publishing.
* Why even a kickstarter campaign in the first place? They are trying to self-publish games nowadays. https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-01-07-platinum-games-accelerates-self-publishing-plans-with-tencent-investment
* I also highly doubt that PS owners have any interest in this game. An install base of 100m doesn't help at all if the audience only buys FIFA, GTA and shooters. The game fits much better on a platform with an audience that is known to accept all kind of games.
* Liam Robertson is an attention whore.
* Hideki Kamiya is a master troll.

At the end of the day I counter this rumor with my own rumor:

This is nothing but a viral marketing stunt to make people talk about Kamiya, PG and TW101 so that on monday Kamiya can make a snorty post on Twitter to insult everyone who believed it.



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twintail said:
ryuzaki57 said:

Could they buy Nintendo's half in Bayonetta 2? I would throw my whole bank account in a Bayonetta 2 Kickstarter for PS4.

Bayonetta belongs to SEGA, so the answer to this would be no.

Bayonetta 2 belongs to nintendo.



Nautilus said:
RolStoppable said:
Sounds so farfetched. Nintendo would be more likely to just hoard the IP than sell it. And if Platinum had the money to buy the rights from Nintendo, then they should have had the money to port the game without a kickstarter too. They'd first have to buy the rights before they can start a kickstarter and that comes with the risk that the kickstarter doesn't bring in enough money to finance the port(s), so the money spent on the rights would be wasted. But it's Kamiya's brainchild, so maybe the financial risk didn't matter too much.

You need to remember that money is not the only way that a deal can be struck.Platinum could have just as easily offered a smaller cut in other projects in exchange on the IP control.For example, instead of a 60% - 40% cut into the next Astral Chain game(in terms of profit), they could have negociated something closer to 70% - 30%.Given the game success, and since Wonderful 101 was a bomb and is seemingly a dead weight to Nintendo, it could be advantageous for Nintendo to make that deal.

Other thing that is also important to consider is that Platinum is important to Nintendo.Or rather, that they both have a good relationship.Since they made a game that was successful on the Swicth(Astral Chain), are developing Bayonetta 3(With the port of Bayonetta 2 also doing seemingly well) and who knows what else, it stands to reason that it would be wise for Nintendo to keep Platinum happy and make a deal that, while good, would favor them more.

Just to throw some ideas around.

No matter how you slice it, there's not much money in it for Nintendo. And keeping Platinum Games happy can't be a real reason because Kamiya already gets to make Bayonetta 3 which wouldn't happen without Nintendo.

Hiku said:

I'm not sure Nintendo would have to sell the IP. Yu Suzuki licensed Shenmue 3 from SEGA, who still own the IP.

But the Kickstarter part sounds pretty questionable. Even more so now after Platinum secured the Tencent investment.

Licensing out an IP to put it on a non-Nintendo platform doesn't sound like something that Nintendo would be okay with.

In summary, we have a tweet from PG that shows Kamiya, a Switch and a TW101 hint, plus a post from the always sketchy 4chan (or some other chan) and a tweet from Robertson. The only thing of substance here might be Kamiya attempting to get people to talk about TW101 again in hopes that Nintendo greenlights a Switch port of the game.

At least this is one of those rumors that can be confirmed or debunked within a couple of days.



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