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Most likely best game on ps4

God Of War 15 24.19%
 
Spider Man 3 4.84%
 
Horizon Zero Dawn 6 9.68%
 
Sekiro 0 0.00%
 
Bloodbourne 3 4.84%
 
The last of Us Part 2 21 33.87%
 
Ghost Of Tsushima 2 3.23%
 
Cyberpunk 2077 1 1.61%
 
Red Dead Redemption 2 2 3.23%
 
FFVII Remake 9 14.52%
 
Total:62
DonFerrari said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Imagine being called toxic just because you posted a simple honest opinion about a game and also posted a picture proving you collect many PS4 games. And no Don, he didn’t post the picture to prove he’s a “Sony guy” he posted it because someone childishly swept his valid opinion aside because he’s “more of a Nintendo guy”. So he posted the picture to prove he has plenty of PS4 taste.

It’s fucking dumb that you’d even feel the need to try and defend the nonsense in this thread. I guess the consoles launching soon have the console warriors in full battle ready status or something.

And how he having only a single PS4 1st party would prove he isn't more of a Nintendo guy?

Would it be like you complaining about Sony releasing less diverse games this gen so you can`t complain about these games selling little or more frequently saying how bad the 1st party games are?

And yet again you talking about others doing console war as if you weren`t one of the easiest recognizable warriors on the forum.

I’m not going to bother defending him, he already shut that nonsense down with his picture of PS4 games. But what’s the going rate on how many first party PS4 titles you have to own before your opinion as a clearly unbiased gamer is valid and not simply thrown in the trash? Just curious. And speaking in general, of course.



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LudicrousSpeed said:
DonFerrari said:

And how he having only a single PS4 1st party would prove he isn't more of a Nintendo guy?

Would it be like you complaining about Sony releasing less diverse games this gen so you can`t complain about these games selling little or more frequently saying how bad the 1st party games are?

And yet again you talking about others doing console war as if you weren`t one of the easiest recognizable warriors on the forum.

I’m not going to bother defending him, he already shut that nonsense down with his picture of PS4 games. But what’s the going rate on how many first party PS4 titles you have to own before your opinion as a clearly unbiased gamer is valid and not simply thrown in the trash? Just curious. And speaking in general, of course.

He can have whatever opinion he want, and no opinion is unbiased (but sure can be valid).

The point is he having several PS4 games but just one 1st party doesn't show he isn't a Nintendo first (which also isn't a problem) as you having a PS4 and several games doesn't make you not being a MS fan first.

The fact that he basically down own or like the first party games from Sony in general already prove he isn't a Sony fan, even if he could like the HW or control.

I do have X360 and more games for it than he have for PS4, still you call me fanboy, warmonger, etc strange isn't it?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

well you want a game that would translate good in the next gen when they port it :)



 

DonFerrari said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

I’m not going to bother defending him, he already shut that nonsense down with his picture of PS4 games. But what’s the going rate on how many first party PS4 titles you have to own before your opinion as a clearly unbiased gamer is valid and not simply thrown in the trash? Just curious. And speaking in general, of course.

He can have whatever opinion he want, and no opinion is unbiased (but sure can be valid).

The point is he having several PS4 games but just one 1st party doesn't show he isn't a Nintendo first (which also isn't a problem) as you having a PS4 and several games doesn't make you not being a MS fan first.

The fact that he basically down own or like the first party games from Sony in general already prove he isn't a Sony fan, even if he could like the HW or control.

I do have X360 and more games for it than he have for PS4, still you call me fanboy, warmonger, etc strange isn't it?

Look again there is more than 1. A few actually. That's not counting digital PS+ games. Plus you have not seen my PS3,PS2,PS1,PSP,PSVita collections.  lol Nintendo first. Get real. Seriously. Get real. My Dreamcast has hooked up HDMI. Retro SEGA is my main love. Neo Geo is after that. In 3rd is everyone else on equal footing. Only older console I have done that by choice. Switch is a just a good system. I don't have a shit ton of Nintendo first party games either. No Pokemon. No Yoshi. No Mario Maker. No Kirby. No Luigi's Mansion. There is Xenoblade. Bayonetta. Astral Chain. Daemon X Machina. Tokyo Mirage Sessions. My name is Leynos. Do you even know the game? It's on Genesis and PS4. My Avatar is Zone of the Enders.

You're acting like I came and said something like Splatoon is better than TLOU or Uncharted. All I really said was the mechanics of the game were lackluster and the AI in my experience wasn't very good. The UC3 Ship segment isn't very good. I said that segment. I also said that the segment took me out of the game and felt the puzzles of what I had played could have been better. I never mentioned characters/story/music/presentation. Those in what I did play, were presented well. If we are going to do this Nintendo thing then fine. BOTW has 97 meta, right? Well While I enjoyed the game (first Zelda since WW I liked) some mechanics bothered me. It also had a lackluster final boss. That's not attacking the game. It's criticism. I didn't say the game wasn't good. I said certain aspects were not in my opinion. Something that seems lost in online forums. Either something is the best or it's shit. People can't have a middle ground it seems. Just hyperbolic extremes even if forming a grounded opinion. However, I'm done defending myself since you guys seem so obtuse. So get your label maker and label me if you wish. If that's the kind of person you choose to be, I'm sorry. I cannot sanction anymore of this buffoonery. Goodbye. Tho it's now getting clear why I see topics that this place is dying.

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Leynos said:
DonFerrari said:

He can have whatever opinion he want, and no opinion is unbiased (but sure can be valid).

The point is he having several PS4 games but just one 1st party doesn't show he isn't a Nintendo first (which also isn't a problem) as you having a PS4 and several games doesn't make you not being a MS fan first.

The fact that he basically down own or like the first party games from Sony in general already prove he isn't a Sony fan, even if he could like the HW or control.

I do have X360 and more games for it than he have for PS4, still you call me fanboy, warmonger, etc strange isn't it?

Look again there is more than 1. A few actually. That's not counting digital PS+ games. Plus you have not seen my PS3,PS2,PS1,PSP,PSVita collections.  lol Nintendo first. Get real. Seriously. Get real. My Dreamcast has hooked up HDMI. Retro SEGA is my main love. Neo Geo is after that. In 3rd is everyone else on equal footing. Only older console I have done that by choice. Switch is a just a good system. I don't have a shit ton of Nintendo first party games either. No Pokemon. No Yoshi. No Mario Maker. No Kirby. No Luigi's Mansion. There is Xenoblade. Bayonetta. Astral Chain. Daemon X Machina. Tokyo Mirage Sessions. My name is Leynos. Do you even know the game? It's on Genesis and PS4. My Avatar is Zone of the Enders.

But do you own Killzone 7 and Knack 2? No? Your opinion is invalid you clearly hate Sony first party.

Its funny, these same people questioning your opinion because your library doesn’t have enough Sony games for them, are the same people who will say PlayStation succeeds because of gamers like you who buy these de facto exclusives that aren’t on other platforms. 



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Leynos said:
DonFerrari said:

He can have whatever opinion he want, and no opinion is unbiased (but sure can be valid).

The point is he having several PS4 games but just one 1st party doesn't show he isn't a Nintendo first (which also isn't a problem) as you having a PS4 and several games doesn't make you not being a MS fan first.

The fact that he basically down own or like the first party games from Sony in general already prove he isn't a Sony fan, even if he could like the HW or control.

I do have X360 and more games for it than he have for PS4, still you call me fanboy, warmonger, etc strange isn't it?

Look again there is more than 1. A few actually. That's not counting digital PS+ games. Plus you have not seen my PS3,PS2,PS1,PSP,PSVita collections.  lol Nintendo first. Get real. Seriously. Get real. My Dreamcast has hooked up HDMI. Retro SEGA is my main love. Neo Geo is after that. In 3rd is everyone else on equal footing. Only older console I have done that by choice. Switch is a just a good system. I don't have a shit ton of Nintendo first party games either. No Pokemon. No Yoshi. No Mario Maker. No Kirby. No Luigi's Mansion. There is Xenoblade. Bayonetta. Astral Chain. Daemon X Machina. Tokyo Mirage Sessions. My name is Leynos. Do you even know the game? It's on Genesis and PS4. My Avatar is Zone of the Enders.

I had to zoom in to be able to see the other two due to the gloss. Spider-Man, Journey and Medievil, very small number of 1st party. How much more than 3 would be a shit ton? Because besides Pokemon the other 4 games aren't really the blockbuster of Nintendo,while again from Sony you have a single blockbuster.

You're acting like I came and said something like Splatoon is better than TLOU or Uncharted.

You could like Splatoon more and that would be no problem

All I really said was the mechanics of the game were lackluster and the AI in my experience wasn't very good.

And I explained that is because you played the game on normal, the way you have to interact in TLOU in normal versus very hard is very different. And AI is made more to make it easier than hard, because the computer always know where you are and what you are doing, so the AI usually is to avoid making it to difficult for you to play (and sure sometimes they either dumb it to much or make it too predictable).

The UC3 Ship segment isn't very good. I said that segment. I also said that the segment took me out of the game and felt the puzzles of what I had played could have been better.

I don't remember not liking any specific segment. But if one segment was so bad I would remember and for it to make you stop playing the game ever since then you weren't really liking it I would say.

I never mentioned characters/story/music/presentation. Those in what I did play, were presented well. If we are going to do this Nintendo thing then fine. BOTW has 97 meta, right? Well While I enjoyed the game (first Zelda since WW I liked) some mechanics bothered me. It also had a lackluster final boss. That's not attacking the game. It's criticism.

There is a small difference between "some mechanics bothered me" and "the final boss was lackluster (could be that you were overpowered, dunno)" and what you said about Naughty Dog games on the mechanics and AI being bad, you weren't putting specific points that you didn't enjoy it was basically a good chunk of the game wasn't good.

I didn't say the game wasn't good. I said certain aspects were not in my opinion. Something that seems lost in online forums. Either something is the best or it's shit. People can't have a middle ground it seems. Just hyperbolic extremes even if forming a grounded opinion. However, I'm done defending myself since you guys seem so obtuse. So get your label maker and label me if you wish. If that's the kind of person you choose to be, I'm sorry. I cannot sanction anymore of this buffoonery. Goodbye. Tho it's now getting clear why I see topics that this place is dying.

Reread what you posted and see if seemed middle ground or extrem, also calling others obtuse isn't something well liked in the forum. For someone that have joined in July 2019 it is odd that you say the place is dying since it is much more active now than it was when you joined.

LudicrousSpeed said:
Leynos said:

Look again there is more than 1. A few actually. That's not counting digital PS+ games. Plus you have not seen my PS3,PS2,PS1,PSP,PSVita collections.  lol Nintendo first. Get real. Seriously. Get real. My Dreamcast has hooked up HDMI. Retro SEGA is my main love. Neo Geo is after that. In 3rd is everyone else on equal footing. Only older console I have done that by choice. Switch is a just a good system. I don't have a shit ton of Nintendo first party games either. No Pokemon. No Yoshi. No Mario Maker. No Kirby. No Luigi's Mansion. There is Xenoblade. Bayonetta. Astral Chain. Daemon X Machina. Tokyo Mirage Sessions. My name is Leynos. Do you even know the game? It's on Genesis and PS4. My Avatar is Zone of the Enders.

But do you own Killzone 7 and Knack 2? No? Your opinion is invalid you clearly hate Sony first party.

Its funny, these same people questioning your opinion because your library doesn’t have enough Sony games for them, are the same people who will say PlayStation succeeds because of gamers like you who buy these de facto exclusives that aren’t on other platforms. 

there again the "I don't do console war"



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

aikohualda said:
well you want a game that would translate good in the next gen when they port it :)

O look at that ..a comment on topic. :p

But yea you make a great point. That's something that makes me question god of war. Its no loading and seamless transitions between cinematic is breathtaking now but Sony plans for all future games to do so effortless next gen with ssds and what ever so we might not appreciate it as much. So I'm thinking then a game that struggles now like cyberpunk will then truly shine next gen. 



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Since I've started playing games no first party game has ever been my choice for "best game on X system" and that will remain the same this gen too as for me. Best game on PS4/best game this gen is for me, Night In The Woods with Divinity Original Sin II a very close second.

If we're talking only first party then I'm sure The Last of Us Part 2 will be a great game and could potentially be my pick for best first party game, I did love the original it would just have too suppose Uncharted 4 as my current favourite first party title.

Last edited by VersusEvil - on 08 February 2020