Yep, and even if you can be vaccinated, that doesn't mean it won't still affect you badly. My wife had enough trouble with the vaccine already. Getting yearly Covid, no matter if it's weaker, won't do her lungs any good.

The government just release a part of their back to school plan (only one month left). Schools should look into air quality (late as always, should have done last year) and masks are here to stay. Mandatory for grade 1 to 12, medical grade masks for staff. Still going on with cohorts and social distancing but no longer any capacity restrictions. Meanwhile everyone must be prepared to switch to online learning if necessary. It's so not over.

Yet maybe it will help keep the flu under control. My wife usually ends up with some form of pneumonia at the end of fall from the kids bring all kinds of viruses home from school. She's been pneumonia free since the Pandemic got up to steam. Silver lining. The kids really need that social interaction again though, they haven't seen a class room since March 2020.

Let me clarify: pandemic viruses have no reason to get "less harmful" since they are, by default, extremely effective at infecting people and having them spread the disease. What usually happens is that people develop protective immunity to it in time. So even as sterilizing immunity wanes due to antibody half-life and antigenic drift, almost everyone will be eventually protected against severe disease and death.

I'd hope a single exposure/vaccine would suffice to get there; the very elderly, HIV+, immunosuppressed, etc. often have few naïve B and T cells left so it might not be that simple. But for most of us that will likely be the case.

Important to note, too, that lasting damage is not novel and exclusive to SARS-CoV-2. Some of the past pandemics have shown the same pattern, such as the one that was likely caused by HCoV-OC43:

The long recovery period mentioned in the German survey and British publications and the frequent neurological sequels mentioned in many British case reports from the 1889 pandemic and the following years of fatigue, lack of concentration, depression and anxiety also resemble what is now described as long haulers or long covid symptoms (Honigsbaum and Krishnan, 2020).

According to medical journals back them:

"The long enduring evil effects of an access of Influenza in a large proportion of cases suggests that the materies morbi is only slowly extinguished in or eliminated from the system. Some subjects experience a weekly attack or relapse for many weeks after the primary access. It may take the form of great impairment of mental and physical power, or the more definite shape of vertigo or cardiac depression with general arterial relaxation necessitating recourse to the recumbent position.… Relapses …are of frequent occurrence; they occurred in 9% of the cases." Source.

Nowadays, coronavirus OC43 is thought guilty of the occasional neurological disease, and coronavirus NL63 is suspected of causing Kawasaki's, so it's not like sequelae disappear 100% after the virus becomes endemic, but it is what it is.

Hey people hope you all are staying safe.

I have a question for pfizer takers

I'm flying back to my job in Dubai two days after my second Pfizer shot is scheduled here in the United States. I'm afraid that the symptoms of the second shot is going to prevent me from from flying.

How bad are the symptoms, when do they emerge, and how long do they last? More specifically, I'm talking about the fever. they will turn my ass around if I'm fevering.

I was part of an early vaccine trial back in November, but I'm pretty sure those assholes gave me a placebo.

my experiance:

1st shot, I had a old nurse with cross eyes, but she was good at jabing (pushing the needle in).
So I bearly felt it.  However by night time, my arm was sore, which made sleeping irritable, as I tend to sleep on my sides (and alter between both).
Next day, basically by the end of it, the soreness was gone. I noticed I was a tiny bit more sleepy than normal that day.. next day I was fine.

2nd shot. I had a younger fit (hot) nurse do the jab.... it hurt abit more.
Again, I was sore in the arm, though less than the first time (oddly enough, considering her not as gentle touch, with the jab).
I was once more, abit sore in the arm (though less than the first time), and it was gone the next day as well.

Seriously, not sure if Im just "lucky", but I went to take the vaccine with my mom, and she basically had the same experiance (though milder than mine).
I've talked with others in my circle, and the scare of the "symptoms" of the shots, seems way over blown (ei. people I talked with haven't experianced anything noticeable).  First shot actually seemed worse than the 2nd one (more sore, and tired, than the 2nd shot)

I can tell you that a cusin of mine, got corona, and is sick as a dog now, and wishing he had gotten vaccinated earlier.

I dont think you should worry about getting the vaccine.
Even if it was like the day of the flight, or day before.

^ lmao, Ryuu96 had same experiance as me.

First shot, actually seemed worse.
The swelling and soreness, was worse first time around for me as well.
I think it was 3-4 weeks lateron, I took the 2nd shot, and the swelling/soreness wasnt nearly as bad, that time.
I was abit tired, the first shot too... probably just your immune system putting in work.

Lmao, I went to take it with my mom too.
So we talked about it afterwards. She barely had any soreness or anything either.

Exactly the same here.

I got both shots around 6 PM and after the first shot I couldn't sleep on the side with the sore arm that night. It simply hurt too much.

After the second shot I barely noticed it after a few hours.

This popped into my head when I read your post.  It's been decades since I've seen it. Lol.

Of all the people getting shots that I know of, only my wife (who has underlying conditions) got a fever from the second shot. I only had a sore arm for 2 days, nothing else. If you're otherwise healthy, it most likely won't affect you.

We're now at 60% fully vaccinated, yet cases are rising in BC from the delta variant. It will be here before fall. The downward trend has already stopped and cases are starting to creep up again. Get your shot!

I don't blame you... when I saw her what popped into my head was this:

(the doc from Cannonball run)

However, she proved the myth that you want a "experianced" hand, when you get anything with medicin done.
Old rutined nurse > hot young one, when it comes to jabbing (atleast in my case)

That seems wreckless.
She "seems" to want to throw the needle (away), into her tray, but ends up throwing it into the arm/elbow of the lady instead.

I'd be angry if someone in healthcare did the same to me.
You can tell the lady who got the shot, seemed fine with the first (planned) jab, however the elbow toss one, hurt.
Shes ofc also surprised :) Still this seems like wreckless behavior from the nurse.