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You concerned yet?

Yes 85 48.02%
 
No, but I will be followi... 50 28.25%
 
No, its being overblown 42 23.73%
 
Total:177

Japan is only declining because they are rejecting people from hospitals in the hotspots.



 

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Phoenix20 said:
How can President Donald Trump spin his way out of this crisis and win the next Presidential election? 60,000+ deaths is not good for his re-election.

I think that sadly the drop in GDP of almost 5% will have a bigger effect on this than any death count from the virus

crissindahouse said:
Wouldn't surprise me if Texas or some other states use this tactic since the beginning.

Well, Worldometer is taking numbers from each state, and Texas lies at 27k cases. However, it's also one with the lower percentage of people tested, with only 10k per million, or just 1%. Only Kansas, Arizona and Virginia did worse in that remark, and just barely. By comparison, New York tested 4.4% while Rhode Island even 5.6% of their population.



drkohler said:
Mandalore76 said:

The majority of Vietnam casualties occurred from 1965-1971, but I guess "20 years" is a much sexier number to cherry pick when nonsensically comparing armed conflict to a pandemic.

Ever heard of the Korean war?

Yeah, I've heard of the Hundred Years War too, what's your point?



Bofferbrauer2 said:

Well, Worldometer is taking numbers from each state, and Texas lies at 27k cases. However, it's also one with the lower percentage of people tested, with only 10k per million, or just 1%. Only Kansas, Arizona and Virginia did worse in that remark, and just barely. By comparison, New York tested 4.4% while Rhode Island even 5.6% of their population.

I think we shouldn't directly translate nr of tests into percentage of tested population, as I'm certain a good nr of people are tested twice or more, like hospitalized patients, essential/medical workers etc.



Mandalore76 said:
drkohler said:

Ever heard of the Korean war?

Yeah, I've heard of the Hundred Years War too, what's your point?

You know what his point is. And in this case it doesn't really matter since there was no event in US history that caused so many deaths in such a short amount of time except for a gigantic civil war. It's notable that this event eclipses the deaths of multiple wars combined. And if you think about it, it's crazy that it can be compared to any war at all, aka the most deadly human made events in history.



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vivster said:
Mandalore76 said:

Yeah, I've heard of the Hundred Years War too, what's your point?

You know what his point is. And in this case it doesn't really matter since there was no event in US history that caused so many deaths in such a short amount of time except for a gigantic civil war. It's notable that this event eclipses the deaths of multiple wars combined. And if you think about it, it's crazy that it can be compared to any war at all, aka the most deadly human made events in history.

You realize that influenza alone killed about 60,000 people in the US last year (more than the Vietnam War)?  So no it's not hard to compare a single virus death toll to an entire manmade conflict.



Comparing epidemics to wars or natural disasters is a bit crooked. These are all different things, with different circumstances. Above there was the comparison with the 2004 Tsunami, where apparently the death toll of this epidemic has now surpassed that of the tsunami. However the death toll of the tsunami happened from one moment to the next in one area of the world instead of spread out over months and all over the world. They're not comparable. I'd rather live now with this epidemic than experience the tsunami or war, even if this virus claims a million more lives.



I'd much rather be in trenches drowning in mud than have a sore throat and aching muscles.



KiigelHeart said:
I'd much rather be in trenches drowning in mud than have a sore throat and aching muscles.

1918 be like "why not both?"



Okay so I'll give an update on the situation in The Netherlands. Things are still going the right way, with numbers dropping almost as fast as they rose. Almost. Monday there was King's Day, which means, even though there were no organised celebrations this year, pretty much everyone had a day off, which meant there was a spike in reporting yesterday to catch up with the numbers.

Today they announced;

  • 514 new cases (about 11% of tests are positive)
  • 84 new hospitalisations
  • 84 new registered deaths from the last few weeks where one occurred as far back as 20 March

In total that makes;

  • 39,316 cases, of which an unknown number has been recovered
  • 10,769 hospitalisations over the course of the epidemic
  • 4,795 deaths

Graphs from the report;

The number of registered new cases per day, yellow means those added today.

The number of hospitalisations per day, this isn't the total amount of people in hospitals, it is the amount of new people per day, again yellow is those registered today.

ICU occupancy, this is the total amount of people at any given day in ICU. The two days after the dotted line can still be slightly adjusted up or down.

The amount of reported deaths per day, yellow those added today.

Current 'corona-measures' are still in effect until 20 (-ish, I forgot the actual day) May. A week before that they'll decide what happens afterwards with bars, restaurants and things like zoos and museums. Shops, except hair dressers and similar things, never closed. A handful of bigger chains did close, but most of have reopened this or last week. Primary schools and child daycare are reopening 11 May, the rest at a later day. Sports for children has resumed this week, though no matches. Events and professional sports are still cancelled until 1 September.