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Ka-pi96 said:
melbye said:
The Chinese government is solely responsible for all 315000+ people that has died from the Covid-19 virus, if saying that makes me racist then i am racist

That's completely and utterly 100% wrong.

Even if they created the virus and intentionally released it (which is a ridiculous conspiracy theory anyway) that would still be wrong. Other countries/people are responsible for their own actions too.

If a shooter enters a crowd and starts mowing people down, and a few citizens have an opportunity to take the shooter down, though they may get killed by trying, are they partially to blame if they don't make the attempt and run/hide instead? What if one of those citizens is an unarmed off duty cop or ex military? Maybe they don't have a gun but they have a knife/blade of some sort. Should they be blamed if they stand idly by?

John2290 said:
Torillian said:

"You need to get out of Canada lad, it's done a number on you. Next you'll be saying you're a bad person for being straight, white and male. Move to one of the better parts of Europe, Ireland perhaps, we are like Canada but housewives don't have majority control over our everyday lives and who gets put in charge. Honestly man, take a step back once and a while and reassess what your country is indoctrinating you into, Canada is like a cult when you look in from the outside, a cult of menopausal women who call the shots and men who are predisposed to being pussy whipped." 

I've bolded the sexist bits for you. 

To be more serious, the idea that Canada is run by menopausal housewives because all the men are too pussy whipped is the sexist bits. But that's like the whole post so.....

Oh yeah, I see it now. Still, it's not sexist if it's true and only a Canadian would deny it. 

It's partially true, no doubt. Canadian men in general are quite a bit softer than they used to be, and it's partially because of the widespread nonstop 'all males are bad for reasons' messaging being pushed. Our wet noodle of a P.M. has just accelerated things.

Though it's nowhere near as bad in conservative households/relationships. The same political divide and what comes with that in America is happening in Canada as well, just not to the same degree of separation, not yet anyway.

One of the biggest problems Canadians have is we are way too passive and forgiving until we are not. If through outside or inside influence, we happen to somehow reach that edge, Canada will snap back, and snap back hard. Sometimes it takes 'whiplash' to clue people in unfortunately.



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SvennoJ said:

Tragic day in Canada yesterday. One of the snow birds crashed in Kamloops on the operation inspiration tour :(

https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/snowbirds-team-member-killed-in-kamloops-b-c-crash-identified-1.4943375

VICTORIA -- One member of the Canadian Forces Snowbirds has died and another has sustained serious injuries after their plane crashed in Kamloops, B.C., while on a cross-country tour. CTV News has confirmed that Capt. Jennifer Casey has been identified as the Snowbirds team member killed in the crash.

In a subsequent tweet, the RCAF said the surviving member's injuries, while serious, were not life threatening.

Kamloops RCMP confirmed Sunday afternoon that they received a report that a Snowbird plane had crashed into a residence on Glenview Avenue, at about 11:42 a.m. local time. BC Emergency Health Services said multiple paramedics responded to the scene and one person was transported to hospital. EHS could not provide any information about that patient's condition.


"The tail of the plane was flying across the street and it was coming right at our house, but it ended up hitting a power pole and spinning around and ended up right on our front grass," Cox said.

“The Snowbirds have been traveling across the country for the past few weeks lifting Canadians’ spirits as part of Operation Inspiration. This is a tragic end to a tour that has brought much needed joy to so many.”

Certainly sad and unfortunate what happened to them, though would the death and injury have been avoided if there was no lock down?

Trying to inspire because of Covid 19 during lock down, which is in place because it's possible you may have Covid 19, and possible you may transmit/contract it, therefore, we must lock down everyone because if it leads to saving just one life, it's worth it.

Sad to know that the Snowbirds and all stunt pilots worldwide will never be allowed to fly over heavily populated area's again. If they could crash into your home, and possibly kill you, then we must redirect these flights, because if it saves just one life, it'll be worth it.



Nighthawk117 said:
crissindahouse said:

Man, if we would put sanctions on every country for lying about stuff and for doing stuff which kills a lot of people, the USA would be more broke than Venezuela already. Just imagine how the USA would look if they would be sanctioned for all their lies regarding the Iraq. 

Damn, it would look ugly for the USA. 

Or if the USA would be sanctioned for a president blackmailing pretty much every other country on this planet to do what he wants or to feel the consequences. Hey Mr. Trump I'm talking about you. 

What if the US had a president who could form a global coalition of countries that all agreed to enact stringent sanctions on China?

... after leaving or attacking most existing global coalitions (Paris agreement, NATO, WHO, UN, JCPOA) and burning bridges to former partners.



Conina said:
Nighthawk117 said:

What if the US had a president who could form a global coalition of countries that all agreed to enact stringent sanctions on China?

... after leaving or attacking most existing global coalitions (Paris agreement, NATO, WHO, UN, JCPOA) and burning bridges to former partners.

I put my faith in Sleepy Joe Biden.



Come to think....Where is Spoke?....Spoke, where are you bro? We miss your numbers....Help us, Spoke....



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Also, Spoke. Don't worry about NP. She hasn't been around for a while now. It's kinda nice here lately.



EricHiggin said:

Certainly sad and unfortunate what happened to them, though would the death and injury have been avoided if there was no lock down?

Trying to inspire because of Covid 19 during lock down, which is in place because it's possible you may have Covid 19, and possible you may transmit/contract it, therefore, we must lock down everyone because if it leads to saving just one life, it's worth it.

Sad to know that the Snowbirds and all stunt pilots worldwide will never be allowed to fly over heavily populated area's again. If they could crash into your home, and possibly kill you, then we must redirect these flights, because if it saves just one life, it'll be worth it.

To my untrained eye, it looks like a mechanical problem which could have happened regardless of why they were flying. And not to fly over populated areas would mean moving all airports, this happened right after take off. They had not even gained enough height to eject safely hence the one death.

They flew over here last week, just with a smoke trail, no stunts. That barrel roll right after take off wasn't planned I think.

And yes, they have many regulations to safe just one life. When doing stunts they have a designated sky box to perform them in, so in case something goes wrong they don't crash into houses or spectators. However, to fly, first one must take off. Moving airports to save lives, or not building houses next to airports to save lives is one of those things where common sense fails. Same as Pickering, why build a nuclear power plant so close to a major city. Just give all the people that live near by iodide pills just to be safe...

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/nuclear-scare-prompts-thousands-of-orders-for-potassium-iodide-pills-1.4766297

In an emailed statement to CTVNews.ca Monday, Senior Communications Advisor for the City of Toronto Alex Burke said that the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission, “requires that all homes and businesses within 10 km of a nuclear power station receive a supply of potassium iodide (KI) pills. Toronto residents within 10 km of the Pickering Nuclear Generating Station (residents living east of Morningside Road) receive KI pills automatically in the mail free of charge. Residents outside the 10-km zone but within 50 km of the station are also eligible for free KI pills that can be ordered online.”

It was a false alert, but come one, we have tons of space, why build it there. Just to safe the cost on power lines? And now they extended its lifespan by another 8 years. Nuclear power plants, one of those things you want to stick to the best before date!



Edit: trained eye perspective

Military pilot here: The jet had some kind of major engine warning or malfunction over the runway. With any engine related issue we are trained to zoom up, trading airspeed for altitude, and come around to low/final key (a position where a no engine forced landing can be made). This is what they attempted. That is why they are climbing and turning. While turning toward low/final key, they departed controlled flight (aggravated stall and spin) due to the lost of thrust. It was probably at this point the decision was made to eject. The tutor is not a zero/zero ejection seat like modern jets, and they were already in an aggressive downward vector. You can see one chute begin to open before the camera pans away.

Last edited by SvennoJ - on 18 May 2020

SJ...Let me ask you a simple question or two....

1. Do you believe this virus originated in Wuhan China?

2. Do you believe this virus originated in a wet market?



John2290 said:
Nighthawk117 said:
Also, Spoke. Don't worry about NP. She hasn't been around for a while now. It's kinda nice here lately.

NightlyPoe is a dude. 

Whatever.



There was never one.