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You concerned yet?

Yes 92 49.46%
 
No, but I will be followi... 50 26.88%
 
No, its being overblown 44 23.66%
 
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LurkerJ said:

Happy camping though, introverts are loving life these days

Not if they have to spend them with their family 24/7. Hence why in Luxembourg a helpline got started for people who can't get along for so long at once



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The BIG problem of the world is that we are ready for war and ready to kill every single person in less than a hour, but not to save lives. Every person dead is a number until is someone we love. Its a realy, realy sad world we live. Maybe we will learn something with this virus, maybe.



RolStoppable said:
John2290 said:

Meanwhile in America...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8162937/amp/Coronavirus-drives-army-command-teams-infamous-Cheyenne-mountain-bunker.html

They ain't taking chances. 

Of course they aren't. Trump has also founded a space police because it's necessary to defend Earth from an invasion launched by aliens who live on Mars. *snickers*

On that note, I am old enough to remember the days when Twix was called Raider.

Twix was always called Twix in the US.  I think the Raider name for it was only used in Europe.



Snoopy said:
John2290 said:

After all this, you still don't understand the fundamental issue. Shame on you Snoopy.

You don't understand the fundamental issue, we are going to have a lot more deaths than the coronavirus if the economy goes under. Im saving people, while you try to sabotage everyone's life.

I highly doubt that.  One thing that will probably happen in the US after the treat is over there will be a increase in mass shootings due to the increased guns and ammo that is currently being bought.



Chris Hu said:
Snoopy said:

You don't understand the fundamental issue, we are going to have a lot more deaths than the coronavirus if the economy goes under. Im saving people, while you try to sabotage everyone's life.

I highly doubt that.  One thing that will probably happen in the US after the treat is over there will be a increase in mass shootings due to the increased guns and ammo that is currently being bought.

Increased gun and ammo sales? Do Americans believe that they can kill the virus by firing into the air?



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Snoopy said:
John2290 said:

After all this, you still don't understand the fundamental issue. Shame on you Snoopy.

You don't understand the fundamental issue, we are going to have a lot more deaths than the coronavirus if the economy goes under. Im saving people, while you try to sabotage everyone's life.

And why does the economy go under? Because the US don't have any social safety net like virtually the entire rest of the world because that sounds like communism to some people there.

And you're not saving people. You're just trading one group of people for another. Mainly, you would trade a couple depressed for lots of poor people who won't be able to afford treatment for Covid-19.

So yes, you really don't understand the issue at hand. Worse, you think a minor issue is bigger than this one because you can't grasp the whole extent of it.



John2290 said:
Snoopy said:

You don't understand the fundamental issue, we are going to have a lot more deaths than the coronavirus if the economy goes under. Im saving people, while you try to sabotage everyone's life.

And if you let the virus run rampant or even fail to contain it within a certain margin the health system goes -> essential workforce dies -> essential services suddenly drop -> Economy crashes -> Civil unrest -> Billions die in the course of a year. The problem is two sided, we are on one side right now and I know the otherside well enough to see the danger. Fact is the moment the virus got out of control we started walking a tightrope of survival and we have a certain amount of time to cross before we get fatigued, there is no speeding things up and we can't go back the other way. We either balance across or well fall. Your suggestion that society lets the virus have it's way just gets us destroyed faster, a global depression is preferable over instant collapse and we can only hope that that is the worst of it. We are at natures mercy wheter you accept that or not it doesn't change the rwality of it. 

Yes both sides of this coin fucking suck and they are massively scary, I feel it. Everyone feels it. The future has become fucked. We are trying to unfuck it collectively. 

I am not feeling it.



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SvennoJ said:
Snoopy said:

Corona virus update : It still over blown!!!!! People, we are seeing a death rate of about 1.3% and probably much lower than that because there are a lot more people who have the virus, but haven't been tested to be part of that statistic. If you're old stay at home, if you're young go out and have fun!!!

Just be careful not to get into an accident or any other illness because the health care system is currently has better things to do. Oh and don't worry about killing off the 15% of the elderly and causing a lot of those over 30 to get severely ill. Most of them will survive anyway bar some lung scarring.

How many deaths and burned out health care workers does it take to take this seriously? I hope you're joking.

Compared to the flu, last year estimate 34K deaths in the USA, avg 109 a day, USA was averaging over 300 a day already in Covid deaths 2 days ago. Europe was averaging over 2200 deaths daily, 2 days ago. 72K is the estimated Flu burden for Europe, as of yesterday 18.8K people have already died of covid19 in Europe. Even just this first wave will kill more people in a fraction of the time than the flu spreading uncontrolled.

Maybe people will start to take hygiene and the flu shot seriously after we get through this.

At one point you will have to wonder how these high measures will affect the economy, jobs, employment rates across the globe when the vast majority of the global population lives pay cheque to pay cheque. It's easier for us to imagine our big governments printing them moneys and saving the day, but what sort of destabilisation these lockdowns will lead to in third world countries that lack the flexible autonomy to take any meaningful shock-absorbing measures against such economical crash. I don't believe we're being fed the full picture here, and the question" is the cure worse than the disease" will only be more legitimate on a global level. 

Unless you want to start the world on a universal basic income program, I am sure the youngsters would take scarred lungs over poverty destabalised nations.

Edit: and to clarify, I am not against or for. It is a serious issue and it's worth looking into the outcome of the decisions being made.



Metallox said:
This shite is killing the restaurant industry in my city, and there are only 8 cases so far. My mother's cafeteria is getting deserted, though there's been a substantial increase in UberEats and to go orders. I never imagined the virus would've such an impact this early into the pandemic.

I'm also growing anxious because my mother has rheumatoid arthritis and a very poor immune system, if she caught the thing, complications would surely arise, I think.

Good to hear she's still getting business. Considering her health, the transition to take-out and delivery is only a good thing.

For what little it's worth, I hope she's OK.



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Eagle367 said:
LurkerJ said:

Hate these "number of cases" counters when most people get mild symptoms and most of us don't get tested. Not even NHS staff are being tested at the moment. The confirmed number of cases don't reflect real numbers and it's utterly meaningless to even report on. What's the effing point?

And it just baffles me that we all these western governments are caught with their pants pulled down when the virus is called COVID 2019, why the hell did you wait until 2020 to realize you don't have enough ventilators and beds? it's all so odd... The people, the politicians and the governments had seen the signs of what's going to happen and no sufficient actions were taken, and no one wants to bear the consequences, such a disgusting display of humane childishness entitlement and hysteria.

Oh and when did China become credible enough to actually believe their numbers? When they admittedly withheld and actively silenced health care providers for trying to speak out. Odd.

Happy camping though, introverts are loving life these days

Calm down and take a deep breath. The confirmed cases give us the trendline of how things are going, if not the actual number. They are very useful in identifying hotspots as well. 

And very useless in calculating the mortality rate and other rates but everyone's doing it and the media is spreading panic across the globe using flawed stats. Surely we can agree the masses aren't looking at these numbers and saying "oh that's not an accurate number but it's useful in identifying hotspots", puh lease. 

Oh and I am very calm, with post-covid immunity and all.