Ka-pi96 said: Fuck this virus! I recently lost my grandpa to it. I've known it was coming since Wednesday. That's when the hospital started making quarantine exceptions for people to visit him. It's also the day I phoned, there was no phone in the room and due to the quarantine stuff it was hard for the nurses to get a phone to him, but they did. They were great, really nice the whole time and they just wouldn't say no, they made it happen. Full credit to them for being so nice and helpful when they surely must be exhausted with the amount of work they've got at the moment. Easily the most upsetting phonecall I've ever had, how can it not be when you know it's probably the last time you'll ever speak to somebody that you love? But I got to speak to him one last time, I got to say goodbye. That's something at least.

My condolences. As you said, at least you got to speak to him one last time, and say goodbye. Many aren't afforded that opportunity.

"it's just a flu bro!"
"think of the economy! we need to end this shutdown now!"

meanwhile...

Within one month, the number of people dying daily in the US from COVID-19 went from zero to higher than the total average daily deaths from homicides, suicides, motor vehicle accidents, and all drug and alcohol overdoses combined.

— Phil Libin (@plibin) March 29, 2020

Over 500 pr day now, and a week from now, that should be over 1000 pr day.
And you cant rule out, that it could reach 2000 pr day, the following week after that.

People will say... its just a drop in the bucket! in america we have 7500 deaths pr day of other causes than covid-19.
500/1000/2000 extra pr day is nothing.

People are still not takeing this seriously. If they want shutdowns to end early, and everyone to just go back to work.

If things continue on current path, 3 weeks form now, there could be around 27,000 deaths in the US due to this virus.

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Patient Zero possibly found.
https://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/patient-zero-at-wuhan-market-identified/3982744/

" The 57-year-old seafood merchant at Wuhan's Huanan market, who The Wall Street Journal have identified as a woman named Wei Guixian, first started to feel sick on December 10. Thinking she was getting a cold, she walked to a small local clinic to get some treatment and then went back to work - potentially spreading the virus to countless others."

"She has recovered since leaving hospital in early January, and told The Paper she believes she may have become infected via a toilet in the market that she shared with wild meat sellers."

China isnt so sure yet, and haveing identified 266 people who were infected in 2019, all of whom came under medical surveillance at some point.
While Ms Wei could be "patient zero" from the Huanan Market, the first person in Wuhan to contract the disease remains a mystery.

"Ms Wei was one of the first 27 patients diagnosed with COVID-19, and one of the 24 cases who had direct links to the Huanan Market. "

JRPGfan said: "it's just a flu bro!" "think of the economy! we need to end this shutdown now!" meanwhile... Within one month, the number of people dying daily in the US from COVID-19 went from zero to higher than the total average daily deaths from homicides, suicides, motor vehicle accidents, and all drug and alcohol overdoses combined. — Phil Libin (@plibin) March 29, 2020 Over 500 pr day now, and a week from now, that should be over 1000 pr day. And you cant rule out, that it could reach 2000 pr day, the following week after that. People will say... its just a drop in the bucket! in america we have 7500 deaths pr day of other causes than covid-19. 500/1000/2000 extra pr day is nothing. People are still not takeing this seriously. If they want shutdowns to end early, and everyone to just go back to work. If things continue on current path, 3 weeks form now, there could be around 27,000 deaths in the US due to this virus.

A week? Try 3 days from now! In a week the US will be double that probably.

Edit:

As for the underlined part, I'm sure even then many detractors will say that the Flu kills more than that in a year, so no biggie for them and they still won't see any need for lockdowns or even just distancing.

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NightlyPoe said: Out of curiosity, does anyone know why Los Angeles is sounding the alarm that they're about to get hit like New York did soon? I'm not seeing anything that makes me think that region's about to blow up.

Saw a tweet the other day that they're ramping up testing. 

Bofferbrauer2 said: JRPGfan said: "it's just a flu bro!" "think of the economy! we need to end this shutdown now!" meanwhile... Within one month, the number of people dying daily in the US from COVID-19 went from zero to higher than the total average daily deaths from homicides, suicides, motor vehicle accidents, and all drug and alcohol overdoses combined. — Phil Libin (@plibin) March 29, 2020 Over 500 pr day now, and a week from now, that should be over 1000 pr day. And you cant rule out, that it could reach 2000 pr day, the following week after that. People will say... its just a drop in the bucket! in america we have 7500 deaths pr day of other causes than covid-19. 500/1000/2000 extra pr day is nothing. People are still not takeing this seriously. If they want shutdowns to end early, and everyone to just go back to work. If things continue on current path, 3 weeks form now, there could be around 27,000 deaths in the US due to this virus. A week? Try 3 days from now! In a week the US will be double that probably. Edit: As for the underlined part, I'm sure even then many detractors will say that the Flu kills more than that in a year, so no biggie for them and they still won't see any need for lockdowns or even just distancing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT9nA-n7_yg

Interview from today.
Dr. Fauci expects millions of cases of corona virus, and 100,000-200,000 deaths.

^ presumably this is just from the 1st wave, and in the US?

JRPGfan said: Patient Zero possibly found. https://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/patient-zero-at-wuhan-market-identified/3982744/ " The 57-year-old seafood merchant at Wuhan's Huanan market, who The Wall Street Journal have identified as a woman named Wei Guixian, first started to feel sick on December 10. Thinking she was getting a cold, she walked to a small local clinic to get some treatment and then went back to work - potentially spreading the virus to countless others." "She has recovered since leaving hospital in early January, and told The Paper she believes she may have become infected via a toilet in the market that she shared with wild meat sellers." China isnt so sure yet, and haveing identified 266 people who were infected in 2019, all of whom came under medical surveillance at some point. While Ms Wei could be "patient zero" from the Huanan Market, the first person in Wuhan to contract the disease remains a mystery. "Ms Wei was one of the first 27 patients diagnosed with COVID-19, and one of the 24 cases who had direct links to the Huanan Market. "

That's only patient zero at the Hunan market. The virus was already traced back to November 17th
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-patients-zero-contracted-case-november-2020-3

It starts slow with an incubation time of 2 to 14 days. If she started to feel sick on the 10th, she could have already been infected as early as November 26th. 266 people identified in 2019, with an average growth of 1.16x, it takes well over a month to reach that number from patient zero. Plus they likely missed more cases that got better without ever getting identified.

In Italy there was already a strange pneumonia going around at the end of November as well.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing/italian-scientists-investigate-possible-earlier-emergence-of-coronavirus-idUSKBN21D2IG
Although avg growth suggests a start of mid Januari in Italy. (50 days to reach the avg growth on March 8th when lock down began) But with testing not revealing all cases it could be earlier as well. If the 8:1 ratio is somewhat accurate (7 missed cases for every one found) that puts the start date at least another 2 weeks further back. Of course more starter seeds hastens the early spread.

It was definitely already around in Hubei in November, in Italy mid Januari at the latest.

JRPGfan said: Patient Zero possibly found. https://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/patient-zero-at-wuhan-market-identified/3982744/ " The 57-year-old seafood merchant at Wuhan's Huanan market, who The Wall Street Journal have identified as a woman named Wei Guixian, first started to feel sick on December 10. Thinking she was getting a cold, she walked to a small local clinic to get some treatment and then went back to work - potentially spreading the virus to countless others." "She has recovered since leaving hospital in early January, and told The Paper she believes she may have become infected via a toilet in the market that she shared with wild meat sellers." China isnt so sure yet, and haveing identified 266 people who were infected in 2019, all of whom came under medical surveillance at some point. While Ms Wei could be "patient zero" from the Huanan Market, the first person in Wuhan to contract the disease remains a mystery. "Ms Wei was one of the first 27 patients diagnosed with COVID-19, and one of the 24 cases who had direct links to the Huanan Market. "

Ridiculous they're putting this women's name out there, making her a target 

PortisheadBiscuit said: JRPGfan said: https://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/patient-zero-at-wuhan-market-identified/3982744/ " The 57-year-old seafood merchant at Wuhan's Huanan market, who The Wall Street Journal have identified as a woman named Wei Guixian, first started to feel sick on December 10. Thinking she was getting a cold, she walked to a small local clinic to get some treatment and then went back to work - potentially spreading the virus to countless others." "She has recovered since leaving hospital in early January, and told The Paper she believes she may have become infected via a toilet in the market that she shared with wild meat sellers." China isnt so sure yet, and haveing identified 266 people who were infected in 2019, all of whom came under medical surveillance at some point. While Ms Wei could be "patient zero" from the Huanan Market, the first person in Wuhan to contract the disease remains a mystery. "Ms Wei was one of the first 27 patients diagnosed with COVID-19, and one of the 24 cases who had direct links to the Huanan Market. " Ridiculous they're putting this women's name out there, making her a target

Yeah, I also think thats wrong.

JRPGfan said: PortisheadBiscuit said: Ridiculous they're putting this women's name out there, making her a target  Yeah, I also think thats wrong.

Could be worse, Next it will be called the Wei virus ;)

Anyway, she was definitely not the first.