Totally agree with this one. I would even happily trade GTA 6 and SR5 alongside Witcher 4 in return of FF16 releasing day one on Xbox

Man stfu. You don't even believe that, BS. You know how I know? You didn't even play Crackdown 3. 

Love smacking a moderator around KEK  

Edit: Imma fall back before I get modded #pussy 

eh I still prefer 7th gen but that's not alone on MS.

7th gen had far more awesome 3rd party games.

3 Bioshock games for 360 vs. not a single new one on X1.
3 Mass Effect games vs. 1
3 Dead Space (2 good ones) vs. 0
2 Dragon Age vs. 1
3 Batman Arkham vs. 1
2 Elder Scrolls vs. 0
2 GTA vs. 0
2 Rayman vs. 0
Multiple Valve games (Left 4 Dead 1+2, Portal 1+2, Half-Life 2) vs. 0

You know this upcoming generation is going to suck when where spectating on whats been moneyhatted before the gen starts.

Most true thing you've said. xD 

I loved 7th gen the best. But 8th had its ups and downs. 

@Ryuu96 New discussion topic to maybe bring up morale in here. What has been you best gaming experience this gen? Could be any of the platforms, games, etc. And what are you looking forward to the most for gen 9 and upcoming games?  For me it was playing Forza Horizon 2. I never played anything like that and it just blew me away. Helped me out during a rough part of my life back in 2014 and since then I have fallen in love with the games. Very much looking forward to Horizon 5. Best game this gen might be Persona 5 Royal. And recently I'd say I really enjoyed my time playing Grounded with Ryuu and Iceland. You can talk to some of the same people each day, but when you get on VC with them it's a little different. Cool mates to fight fat ass lady bugs and build houses with. 

Loving the direction MS is headed. I feel it will take time with these new studios, but I'm very much looking forward to Grounded next year, Horizon 5, and Fable, as three of my most anticipated experiences. Hoping loading times are a lot shorter as well. 

I think you found something peculiar I completely overlooked. 

I mean, don't you think MS's first party looks strangely... Nintendo-ish? Is it possible that perhaps, for some bizarre reason, MS is trying to get not Sony's fans, but Nintendo fans on their side? 

Also, xCloud is still going to rake in money. The subscription service needs mass and people who wouldn't splurge on a Series X or S will be able to do so on GPU and get the same deal for the most part on their favorite device. 

Man I wish it was SF 6 over FF 16. Capcom still sucks, hate all their games too ROFL. jk I liked... 

Bruh I told you Discord, SE was doing so well.  

They had brought all those FF games to Xbox... FUCKING DRAGON QUEST 11... FF 14 confirmed, 7 HD, 8,9,10 collection, 12, hell even World of FF, and then they had to fuck it up by taking that FF 7R deal, which to be honest sales not THAT impressive. Again not saying that they would have been stellar, but still not the greatest for a renowned FF game. 

Yeah I'm really loving the switch. Not really liking their current direction of where tf they're going and some of their prices, but it's also a shitty time rn, so I guess I I can give them a pass. Circling back to your other point, I honestly feel embarrassed for what has happened to Rockstar. It's crazy what money has done to them, I mean, to a degree I do not blame them, but to release GTA 5 AGAIN.. and not even a mention of GTA 6 is embarrassing. Bethesda with Fallout and ES has also been a joke. EA really has fucked up Bioware, hopefully DA 4 delivers. 

I feel Obsidian might be their dark horse purchase. PG to me is still their mint, but damn it was crazy what 13 people did for Grounded. 

And then you have people calling game pass anti consumer and they hate the GaaS model. There have been so many games that I would not have played if it wasn't for Game pass. I never would have considered playing Crapdown 3, but I played it and really enjoyed it. Sea of Thieves was ok, but felt like you needed to really invest in it. I tried out State of Decay 2, which at launch did have problems. So I guess I can see where some people can get this notion for these "unfinished games." Game pass has also allowed me to try a game and then later buy it (at a reduced price too, example Kiwami 2, 0.)

I think MS' biggest challenge is going to be making their their games are up to snuff technically. Releasing a game and then fixing it, ie) Infinite isn't the greatest way to show off Game pass' potential with the ray tracing being added. I'm hoping that is one thing that will be rectified for gen 9. 

Yeah the lack of RPGs this gen from Xbox disappointed me. I'm just glad we got Fable. 

Really interested to see Hellblade gameplay, fuck just talking about iceland. Hoping the gameplay is a little more engaging than the last. New AAA games from Inexile and The Initiative as well.