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Crash Bandicoot vs Spyro

Crash Bandicoot 9 50.00%
 
Spyro 9 50.00%
 
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We cant be sure the Activision deal is why MS didnt get Tomb Raider. If that was the case then they would end up with Sony or some other big pub like Take Two or EA.

Maybe big publishers simply think CD/Eidos and TR/Deus Ex are not worth it any more.



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gtotheunit91 said:
shikamaru317 said:

Of course not, they have limits to what they can acquire. That is why I would rather the remainder of what they are allowed to acquire be studios and IP's I care about, as opposed to Activision-Blizzard which offers me very little I care about when the biggest won't even be exclusive.

Yeah, for me, the Activision Blizzard deal still feels weird and honestly out of place.

The ZeniMax deal felt right when it was announced. When I think of franchises like Elder Scrolls, DOOM, Wolfenstein, Fallout, and Quake, I think of PC and Xbox. 

BGS games always had deals with Xbox prior to Skyrim being fully multiplatform for either full exclusivity of their games like Morrowind, or timed exclusivity on their games like Oblivion, but even to the point that it included DLC. I remember Fallout 3 DLC was exclusive to the 360 for a while. 

So that deal felt right to me, but Acti-Blizz.......just doesn't seem like a proper fit lol but that's just me. It definitely is a proper fit financially from Microsoft's perspective lol

Definitely not out of place. 3 of the top 10 selling games on Xbox last month were Activision games.



jason1637 said:
gtotheunit91 said:

Yeah, for me, the Activision Blizzard deal still feels weird and honestly out of place.

The ZeniMax deal felt right when it was announced. When I think of franchises like Elder Scrolls, DOOM, Wolfenstein, Fallout, and Quake, I think of PC and Xbox. 

BGS games always had deals with Xbox prior to Skyrim being fully multiplatform for either full exclusivity of their games like Morrowind, or timed exclusivity on their games like Oblivion, but even to the point that it included DLC. I remember Fallout 3 DLC was exclusive to the 360 for a while. 

So that deal felt right to me, but Acti-Blizz.......just doesn't seem like a proper fit lol but that's just me. It definitely is a proper fit financially from Microsoft's perspective lol

Definitely not out of place. 3 of the top 10 selling games on Xbox last month were Activision games.

True but tbf, CoD games are always going to be in top 10's every year regardless of platform lol. I meant more as having them as a first party company when compared to other first party studios under Xbox.

But Ryuu pretty much nailed it. This'll bring in a substantial casual audience to Xbox and by a huge extension, Game Pass.  



gtotheunit91 said:
jason1637 said:

Definitely not out of place. 3 of the top 10 selling games on Xbox last month were Activision games.

True but tbf, CoD games are always going to be in top 10's every year regardless of platform lol. I meant more as having them as a first party company when compared to other first party studios under Xbox.

But Ryuu pretty much nailed it. This'll bring in a substantial casual audience to Xbox and by a huge extension, Game Pass.  

I think some are missing half of the equation here :)
Recurring revenues from WOW and games like that + King and the mobile side, those are not showing in this list a represents a lot of the revenues (if not the majority).

I believe the Act/Blizz is really on point; valuations are about revenues not how popular IPs are or how high they are in the charts (charts are really only a fraction of what is going on).



Imaginedvl said:
gtotheunit91 said:

True but tbf, CoD games are always going to be in top 10's every year regardless of platform lol. I meant more as having them as a first party company when compared to other first party studios under Xbox.

But Ryuu pretty much nailed it. This'll bring in a substantial casual audience to Xbox and by a huge extension, Game Pass.  

I think some are missing half of the equation here :)
Recurring revenues from WOW and games like that + King and the mobile side, those are not showing in this list a represents a lot of the revenues (if not the majority).

I believe the Act/Blizz is really on point; valuations are about revenues not how popular IPs are or how high they are in the charts (charts are really only a fraction of what is going on).

Good point! 

Plus, the slumping numbers for Acti-Blizz recently will all change after this holiday. So many are thinking this is the end, when it's just based off a bad CoD release. 2019 Modern Warefare set records for Activision in every conceivable way. 2022 Modern Warefare 2 will be no different.



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Ryuu96 said:
gtotheunit91 said:

I honestly think Capcom has no interest in getting acquired. At least not any time soon. They're doing so incredibly well quarter after quarter leaving the last decade of blunders mostly behind them with a lot of promise going forward. 

And with this whole "PC will be our main platform going forward" initiative Capcom is pursuing, they definitely seem to be more interested in remaining in their current position.

Persona can definitely change though if Microsoft gets Sega in their sights which is always rumored to be the case. Granted this wouldn't be a remote possibility for at least a couple more years. Soul Hackers 2 will be a must this Fall on Xbox! 

This actually reminds me of a video I saw a few weeks back, I can't remember the exact details but it argued against Capcom being acquired, along with the usual "Capcom is all in on PC" and Capcom doing amazing lately, it pointed out that Capcom is a family ran business, the CEO has two sons, both work at Capcom, one is the head of the Monster Hunter division and the video said he wanted to pass the company down to his sons.

I'd have to look into it more but I think if that is true then it's safe to say that Capcom would fight off any acquisition attempt like Ubisoft did in the past.

That's really interesting! Mind sending me a video link if you find it again?



gtotheunit91 said:
jason1637 said:

Definitely not out of place. 3 of the top 10 selling games on Xbox last month were Activision games.

True but tbf, CoD games are always going to be in top 10's every year regardless of platform lol. I meant more as having them as a first party company when compared to other first party studios under Xbox.

But Ryuu pretty much nailed it. This'll bring in a substantial casual audience to Xbox and by a huge extension, Game Pass.  

True having a CoD game in the top 10 is common but to have all 3 of the latestes CoDs is not. PS only had Vanguar din their top 10 sellers and that was #7/10.



Getting Activision is 100% worth for MS because they get major IPs and also a bigger foothold into areas that they wanted to expand into like PC/Mobile/GaS, Activision made 5 billion in MTX alone last year breaking their own record and it will likely happen again with Overwatch 2, Warcraft Mobile, Diablo Immortal, Diablo 4, MW2, Warzone 2, Warzone Mobile and the cash cow that is Candy Crush/King.

Personally I just don’t care anymore if the mainline CoD games don’t stay exclusive, the problem for me is that ActiBlizz don’t offer anything that I’m interested in or move the needle for me, It’s not really about exclusives but I would much rather have more investment go into traditional AAA games so WB/Eidos/Crystal would have been much more interesting purchase to me.



https://www.trueachievements.com/n49494/xbox-game-pass-may-2022-leaving

No idea how to embed non twitter articles...

Final Fantasy X/X-2 Leaving Game pass. 



I know some want Xbox to own every studio under the sun or at least the ones they care for, but that's simply not reality and some studios are going to get bought up by other publishers. Imagine being a Sony fan who enjoyed any of the games from the studios Xbox has bought. Either get over it or buy the system those games will be on lol.