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Crash Bandicoot vs Spyro

Crash Bandicoot 9 50.00%
 
Spyro 9 50.00%
 
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I'm actually expecting now that Square went down in value after this sale, this sets them up for Sony to swoop in for a lower price.

Jeff Grubb went so far as to tease as such.



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coolbeans said:

MS going after Crystal & Eidos would've made bigger waves with me than Acti-Blizz.

Same here. I obviously recognize that in the grand scheme of things, Activision was a much better play for MS. On a personal level tho...I'd trade Activision for CD and Eidos + the Tomb Raider, Deus Ex, and Thief IP among others in a heartbeat. Oh well...can't always work out perfectly for us aye? lol

Still absolutely stunned by this deal. To give up so much for so little, in the current market...crazy. If anything, to be in a place where you, as the head(s) of Square are even CONSIDERING agreeing to such a low deal...it should be a fucking epiphany moment lol. Like, holy shit, how badly have we mismanaged these studios and IP?! We gotta make some serious changes in our organization! But no, it's Square, so they gonna take a few pennies on the dollar to throw at the blockchain. RIP



shikamaru317 said:
Ryuu96 said:

Xbox can't acquire every AAA in existence...

Of course not, they have limits to what they can acquire. That is why I would rather the remainder of what they are allowed to acquire be studios and IP's I care about, as opposed to Activision-Blizzard which offers me very little I care about when the biggest won't even be exclusive.

Yeah, for me, the Activision Blizzard deal still feels weird and honestly out of place.

The ZeniMax deal felt right when it was announced. When I think of franchises like Elder Scrolls, DOOM, Wolfenstein, Fallout, and Quake, I think of PC and Xbox. 

BGS games always had deals with Xbox prior to Skyrim being fully multiplatform for either full exclusivity of their games like Morrowind, or timed exclusivity on their games like Oblivion, but even to the point that it included DLC. I remember Fallout 3 DLC was exclusive to the 360 for a while. 

So that deal felt right to me, but Acti-Blizz.......just doesn't seem like a proper fit lol but that's just me. It definitely is a proper fit financially from Microsoft's perspective lol

Last edited by gtotheunit91 - on 02 May 2022

Imagine wanting MS to acquire what's left of Square now lol



Ryuu96 said:

"No sooner than 2 years from now"

So Perfect Dark Holiday 2024 at the earliest but that is sorta what we all expected anyway!

That sounds about right but it sounds more like Embracer is expecting AAA games from these studios based on the IP that they've just acquired rather than current existing deals. Specifically mentions they expect for that new Tomb Raider to be released 2 in years. Not sure how feasible that will be



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shikamaru317 said:
Ryuu96 said:

I mean, what you care about, isn't what others care about, vice versa.

Activision-Blizzard purely from a business sense is absolutely a smarter decision than Square Europe/WBIE combined, as for a personal preference, well that's debatable but Xbox already has 23 studios even without AB working on a variety of genres and game sizes, Bethesda was to me the hardcore purchase which appeals to inner gaming circles and now Activision-Blizzard is more the casual crowd, anything after Bethesda to me is just the cherry on top.

Xbox will lose out on some deals, they would even if Activision-Blizzard wasn't a factor, that's life, Sony and other major publishers will get some studios over Microsoft no matter what the situation is, better get used to it.

In this scenario we're talking like two studios with two IPs if we're being honest, only Tomb Raider and Deus Ex are the ones which a chance at being revived and they're still multiplatform so nothing at all has changed for us, hell if anything, I would say being under Embracer bodes better for Xbox than being under Square Enix when it comes to Crystal Dynamics and Perfect Dark.

Do think Microsoft should fill some genre gaps they have but they honestly don't have that many huge gaps left if Activision-Blizzard goes through, the biggest I can see being Fighting & JRPGs, neither of which Square Europe fills.

Remember Microsoft already backed out of acquiring WBIE because they were asking for too much and not selling any of their IPs, this was even before Activision-Blizzard, it's very possible that Microsoft still wouldn't acquire WBIE studios regardless of the Activision-Blizzard deal because it comes with no IPs and who knows, maybe a multiplatform publisher acquires them which again, means, nothing changes for us, Lol.

Is ABK really better from a business sense though?

Yes. Good talk.



Ryuu96 said:
gtotheunit91 said:

Yeah, for me, the Activision Blizzard deal still feels weird and honestly out of place.

The ZeniMax deal felt right when it was announced. When I think of franchises like Elder Scrolls, DOOM, Wolfenstein, Fallout, and Quake, I think of PC and Xbox. 

BGS games always had deals with Xbox prior to Skyrim being fully multiplatform for either full exclusivity of their games like Morrowind, or timed exclusivity on their games like Oblivion, but even to the point that it included DLC. I remember Fallout 3 DLC was exclusive to the 360 for a while. 

So that deal felt right to me, but Acti-Blizz.......just doesn't seem like a proper fit lol but that's just me. It definitely is a proper fit financially from Microsoft's perspective lol

Way I have seen it.

  • Zenimax - Core Market
  • Activision Blizzard - Casual Market

Yeah, I think you nailed it on the head lol



I bet Darrell Gallagher looked at the news this morning and went "fuuuuuuuuuuck"   he was probably hoping to get his old team back permanently after this initial partnership of co-developing Perfect Dark



While I will always do my part with supporting Japanese games on Xbox, I will not be surprised if they skip it. Absolutely expect Sony to swoop in and get SE or Capcom. I also don't expect Persona to ever come to Xbox. If you like Japanese games, get a PS5 and when they do come to Xbox, support it.



Spade said:

While I will always do my part with supporting Japanese games on Xbox, I will not be surprised if they skip it. Absolutely expect Sony to swoop in and get SE or Capcom. I also don't expect Persona to ever come to Xbox. If you like Japanese games, get a PS5 and when they do come to Xbox, support it.

I honestly think Capcom has no interest in getting acquired. At least not any time soon. They're doing so incredibly well quarter after quarter leaving the last decade of blunders mostly behind them with a lot of promise going forward. 

And with this whole "PC will be our main platform going forward" initiative Capcom is pursuing, they definitely seem to be more interested in remaining in their current position.

Persona can definitely change though if Microsoft gets Sega in their sights which is always rumored to be the case. Granted this wouldn't be a remote possibility for at least a couple more years. Soul Hackers 2 will be a must this Fall on Xbox!