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So it took the Switch just 2 years and 9 months to sell what it took the Xbox One 6 years to achieve. That is both amazing for Nintendo and pathetic for Microsoft.

I will say, I think Microsoft has done all the right things throughout this generation to regain some momentum and put 'Scarlett' in a position to have more sales than the Xbox One ever did. It'll boil down to their first party offerings.

As for the Switch, I think 2020 has just as good of a chance of being the peak year as 2019. It'll depend on what is being offered. Animal Crossing is a big one, for sure. It's the biggest title the Switch has gotten in Q1 since Breath of the Wild. But it's going to need a lot more than that. I think a price cut may be on the way next year: Lite model goes to $170 and the upgraded base model goes to $250. I'm 85% certain that we're getting the next 3D Mario game next year as well. I think Pokemon Gen 4 remakes are also a strong possibility. I'm not too certain about Breath of the Wild 2, however. I think that's going to be a 2021 title. But I think the combination of Animal Crossing + 3D Mario + Pokemon Gen 4 remakes + a price cut would be a strong lineup of A tier titles to have at the top of the card for 2020. They'll also need some good, solid B tier titles in the back to support those titles and keep momentum steady. Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition is a good start, but it needs more. Furthermore, I think we're due for 1 big, major 3rd party game that will be a system seller. *COUGHMonsterHunterCOUGH*


The potential is there, but we need to see results. And soon... Man, I'd sure love a general Nintendo Direct right about now.



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Congrats Nintendo, coming from the failures of the Wii U, I'm real proud to see you here today



CGI-Quality said:
only777 said:

To be fair, that system is the Xbox One which a dumpster fire.

Not trying to take anything away from Nintendo.  I think we can all agree the the Switch is brilliant, but let's be honest, the Xbox One sucks.

Reasons as to why?

Sure.

Total lack of 1st party games.  The first Xbox had Microsoft pushing for a lot of great exclusives.  You could say this about the 360 too for the first half of it's life.  But the XBO is totally lacking.  Where is Scalebound?  Where is Project Gothem Racing?  For a company selling a games machine how has this happened?

But we know how this happened, its a total failure of management at Microsoft.  From creating a console with features no one wanted, mis-management of 1st party studios to behind the scenes stuff like ID @Xbox (remember that?!).  The console sucks because the people that made it cocked up every single aspect around it.

Here's the big difference between Xbox and Sony.  When Sony fucked up the PS3 launch, they worked hard on the one thing that could actully get them back in the race; Games.

Microsoft have spent their time doing Xcloud, Backward compatibility and pushing for cross play.  All nice things, but a complete waste of time if you don't have the number one thing people actually want the console for; GAMES!

You could say that they are holding back now to bring everything to scarlet.  But that's a shit excuse.  When Sony fucked up, they made damn sure that by the end of the PS3's life it had killer games on it.  How come Microsoft haven't managed this too?  Because Xbox management is inept.

That's why Xbox sucks.



Sony want to make money by selling art, Nintendo want to make money by selling fun, Microsoft want to make money.

pokoko said:
All these comments acting like third-party video-games are doomed seem awfully silly.

Pretty much, very weird posts lol. Third-Party publishers like EA, Activision, Ubisoft and Capcom are doing great on PS4/XBO and Switch outselling the XBO literally has zero impact on that. xD



"Mark my words, this (Nintendo Switch) is bombing harder than the Wii U."



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PAOerfulone said:

So it took the Switch just 2 years and 9 months to sell what it took the Xbox One 6 years to achieve. That is both amazing for Nintendo and pathetic for Microsoft.

I will say, I think Microsoft has done all the right things throughout this generation to regain some momentum and put 'Scarlett' in a position to have more sales than the Xbox One ever did. It'll boil down to their first party offerings.

As for the Switch, I think 2020 has just as good of a chance of being the peak year as 2019. It'll depend on what is being offered. Animal Crossing is a big one, for sure. It's the biggest title the Switch has gotten in Q1 since Breath of the Wild. But it's going to need a lot more than that. I think a price cut may be on the way next year: Lite model goes to $170 and the upgraded base model goes to $250. I'm 85% certain that we're getting the next 3D Mario game next year as well. I think Pokemon Gen 4 remakes are also a strong possibility. I'm not too certain about Breath of the Wild 2, however. I think that's going to be a 2021 title. But I think the combination of Animal Crossing + 3D Mario + Pokemon Gen 4 remakes + a price cut would be a strong lineup of A tier titles to have at the top of the card for 2020. They'll also need some good, solid B tier titles in the back to support those titles and keep momentum steady. Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition is a good start, but it needs more. Furthermore, I think we're due for 1 big, major 3rd party game that will be a system seller. *COUGHMonsterHunterCOUGH*


The potential is there, but we need to see results. And soon... Man, I'd sure love a general Nintendo Direct right about now.

Sony had the Vita, Nintendo had the Wii U and now Microsoft have the Xbox One. All 3 had recent products that didnt do very well. But Xbox one did better than the 2 I mentioned. Hopefully people have learnt their lesson from the Switch to not count out Microsoft just yet. They can make a comeback.



Pocky Lover Boy! 

Congrats, it really helps to have a varied library. While XB1 has plenty of 3rd party games from the top western developers, it has really been lacking in Japanese games and the AA market.



Barkley said:
pokoko said:
All these comments acting like third-party video-games are doomed seem awfully silly.

Pretty much, very weird posts lol. Third-Party publishers like EA, Activision, Ubisoft and Capcom are doing great on PS4/XBO and Switch outselling the XBO literally has zero impact on that. xD

Nintendo versus third parties is a complicated yet persistent narrative. Especially certain ones (E.A). 

All I know is that whenever I see one of their titles selling below expectations, I will never fail to point out when the system didn't have a Switch version. 



The Democratic Nintendo fan....is that a paradox? I'm fond of one of the more conservative companies in the industry, but I vote Liberally and view myself that way 90% of the time?

PAOerfulone said:

As for the Switch, I think 2020 has just as good of a chance of being the peak year as 2019. It'll depend on what is being offered. Animal Crossing is a big one, for sure. It's the biggest title the Switch has gotten in Q1 since Breath of the Wild. But it's going to need a lot more than that. I think a price cut may be on the way next year: Lite model goes to $170 and the upgraded base model goes to $250. I'm 85% certain that we're getting the next 3D Mario game next year as well. I think Pokemon Gen 4 remakes are also a strong possibility. I'm not too certain about Breath of the Wild 2, however. I think that's going to be a 2021 title. But I think the combination of Animal Crossing + 3D Mario + Pokemon Gen 4 remakes + a price cut would be a strong lineup of A tier titles to have at the top of the card for 2020. They'll also need some good, solid B tier titles in the back to support those titles and keep momentum steady. Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition is a good start, but it needs more. Furthermore, I think we're due for 1 big, major 3rd party game that will be a system seller. *COUGHMonsterHunterCOUGH*


The potential is there, but we need to see results. And soon... Man, I'd sure love a general Nintendo Direct right about now.

I agree on that price cut, they should absolutely have a price cut before the new systems launch. I hope there's not another pokemon game next year. Every year would just seem ridiculous. I could see two more pokemon games hitting Switch in its lifetime, anything more than that would be total overkill. Pokemon shouldn't be CoD.

BotW 2 is way more likely than another 3D Mario next year. BotW came out before Odyssey and it is using the same world, which means development time should be cut down significantly. BotW 2 next year makes total sense, Mario 3D doesn't. I do think a new Mario 2D series is possible next year. The combo of AC, BotW 2, new Mario 2D series as 3 high potential 10+ million sellers would make it a huge year for Switch in terms of system sellers. Throw in stuff like Bayonetta 3, maybe Metroid Prime Trilogy HD, hopefully porting over Wind Waker HD or maybe a combo pack of Zelda HD games (WW, SS?), and at least one more new console series game (pikmin??) and maybe a portable-only series to boot, and Nintendo could have everything it needs for a bigger year than this year. Of course hopefully it one or two big new third party games as well.



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