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Evangelical Christianity - not all, but seemingly a majority of its denominations - is the Western world equivalent to Wahhabi Sunni Islam (or 19th century Puritanism, as you prefer). What is happening in South America is also happening in parts of Europe and Oceania. See Uganda, who nearly instituted the death penalty for homosexuals based on Evangelical missionary activity, or Samoa becoming basically a theocracy.

Ironically or tragically, Morales and other leaders had a direct hand on it, since the increasing standards of living and the burgeoning middle class popularized prosperity theology and right-wing economic politics in the face of a South American tradition of catholic distributism. 



 

 

 

 

 

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Nautilus said:
At least, as far as I see, shes far better than the dictator that was there before her.Not saying she is great and all but, life isnt black and white either.

But yeah, South America has been in shambles for decades now.Hard to fix it, when you have corrupt politicians trying to destroy it left and right....

How is she better? The "dictator" was improving the lives of bolivians and Bolivia in all metrics. See how Bolivia goes down the gutter with this idiot at the helm



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DonFerrari said:
I love how it is ok to mock religious person if they are christian.

I can make fun of Modhi, MBS, netenyahu and Khamenei all day long



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Spike0503 said:
She seems kinda crazy but I think this is still better than if the shithead dictator, disciple of Chavez stayed in power like he wanted to. I'm glad Bolivians got rid of him.

A neocon military coup is better? How? Morales was making Bolivia better. He might not be perfect and should have trained a successor instead of leading for so long but Morales is far better than these nutjobs



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DonFerrari said:
OTBWY said:

Being Christian is fine. Being a Christian fundamentalist fascist out to transform the government into a theocratic one out to persecute the natives cause of witchcraft is insane and should not ever be condoned.

Still making fun of any christian, radical or not, is accepted here and everywhere. Now making fun of Muslim, black heritage religions, etc is usually bad looked and said to be persecutive.

Jumpin said:

The main stuff the Christian Gospels are against is the stuff she's doing.

So the reason it isn't ok to mock Muslim is because their gospel is being met by them when they do bad stuff?

What are you talking about? Islam doesn't condone or agree with what daesh or saudis or Erdogan do. You can make fun of daesh all you want and make fun of MBS while you're at it. But you seem to believe Islam is evil, not the people doing evil things are evil. Whereas when we make fun of these idiots, we make fun of these idiots, not Christianity. If your goal is to go after and make fun of Muslims, by Al means the floor is yours. If your intention is to misrepresent Islam and what the religion is and make fun of that misrepresentation, you can do that but it's not easy we are doing to Christians here. Make fun of wahabism as well, it's a disease from Muslims and Islam as well. Goat fuckers international aka Daesh is a prime target to make fun of. You have so may options. What about Khamenei or Sissy? Maybe try Imran Khan and how hypocritical he is. Make fun of Modhi as well. Put netenyahu in there as well. Go at it



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The real reason Morales is out

https://youtu.be/aDEvJyKDseU



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Eagle367 said:
Nautilus said:
At least, as far as I see, shes far better than the dictator that was there before her.Not saying she is great and all but, life isnt black and white either.

But yeah, South America has been in shambles for decades now.Hard to fix it, when you have corrupt politicians trying to destroy it left and right....

How is she better? The "dictator" was improving the lives of bolivians and Bolivia in all metrics. See how Bolivia goes down the gutter with this idiot at the helm

He was improving their lives so much that even the people wanted him to resign....

And Bolivia is still on the gutter... Outside of Brazil, Chile and maybe Argentina, most countries in South America are in the gutter....

People need to stop this "if he is from the left, he is a good guy" and " if he is from the right, he is a fascist!Nazist!".Thats what led to Bolivia becomming what it is today.

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OTBWY said:
Nautilus said:

Good god, how can the world have such a twisted view of the South American countriess like that?This is why its so hard to have discussions with people that dont live in the country or near it.Bolivia is the second poorest country in the continent, and no one wants to visit it, specially because it was a socialist dictatorship country.

No, its quite the opposite.Bolivia is ih a horrible situation.And while it was already horrible before Morales, Morales just made it worst, with his populist government(that ultimately turned into a dictatorship, made even more obvious with the fraud in the elections).And no socialism government ever worked, and his government was no exception.

A (somewhat) nice video explaining the election fraud:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU4binuI-BE

And while I dont agree completely with the article below, it helps to show how the people, and not just the military, dosent want the dictator in power anymore.It even shows some of the (supposed) improvement Morales did(because rarely someone is truly evil.Usually people start with good intentions):

https://www.americasquarterly.org/content/thanks-goodbye-why-evo-morales-former-supporters-want-him-gone

" For one, former evo aligned politicians are getting dragged into the streets and beaten and shaven. Their houses being ransacked. She gave the police immunity for shooting and possibly killing protesters. "

I need sources for this quote, because I dont remember reading or hearing this.

You know I find it amazing how one election is counted perfectly fine when it helps the opposition (and the OAS) and calls it election fraud when it doesn't suit them. What a strange dictator Morales is, getting elected by a majority but listening to the opposition so that he was even prepared for a second vote. But hey, we won't know that because the fascist right with the military forced him to resign to avoid bloodshed. Under threat. What a weird dictator to not even have the military behind him hmmmmm. 

Such nonsense nautilus.

You know damn well what the history of Latin America is. How it has been historically treated as the backgarden of the US, with its rich and plenty resources been dominated by the US so much that fascistic brutal dictators had to be installed. People who with helicopters and planes threw other people into the ocean. And it is happening now, through the OAS and other special interest, almost like a bad movie script. It's incredible what mental gymnastics people will perform to approve of brutal military coups. 

Heres a source of what you asked: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-50332167

Watch these:



Oh please, really?Are you really going to play the "She/he is right leaning, so he/she is a fascist" card?Well, if it comes down to this, at least I know that I have won the argument....

The PEOPLE wanted him out.It is stated on both sources that I gave you.It wasnt something that the evil military or the evil first world ploted to make it happen.People, especially ones that live a good life in countries like Europe or in the US, are so ennamored with this idea that socialism and the governments that comes with it are "for the people", that they defend anything they do, no matter how horrible that government turns out to be.Why?Because its easy to defend something that you dont live in, and its harder to accept the fact/truth that maybe your ideals are simply not pratical.

Morales was not a good dictator, at least in the end, and the people wanted him out.There were multiple protests about the fradulent elections(and even before that), acknoledged both by the country and by international entities, and you come here and say that it was the military, and by extention the people, that did a coup?

Honestly, it makes me want to send anyone that approves such governments, especially ones like Bolivia which are one of the poorest countries in the world, to go live there for a year, and think if they feel the same way after that time.Yeah, it sucks that Bolivia had to live through a shit dictator like Morales, and that its interin(interin!!!!) president isnt all that better(at least in theory, saying is one thing, doing is another), but being blind about the true nature of the previous government is just asking to make the same mistake yet again.



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Jumpin said:
DonFerrari said:

Still making fun of any christian, radical or not, is accepted here and everywhere. Now making fun of Muslim, black heritage religions, etc is usually bad looked and said to be persecutive.

So the reason it isn't ok to mock Muslim is because their gospel is being met by them when they do bad stuff?

Huh? Not once did I argue that.

Is this straw man argument your way of justifying this crazy video?

Have I said you did? Have I said OP is that?

Nope, what I said is that in general in this forum and other areas of western world it is fun to mock christians but not other religious, as is ok to mock male but not woman, or white but not black, etc. Would you deny this situation?

Eagle367 said:
DonFerrari said:
I love how it is ok to mock religious person if they are christian.

I can make fun of Modhi, MBS, netenyahu and Khamenei all day long

Then you are fine.

Eagle367 said:
DonFerrari said:

Still making fun of any christian, radical or not, is accepted here and everywhere. Now making fun of Muslim, black heritage religions, etc is usually bad looked and said to be persecutive.

So the reason it isn't ok to mock Muslim is because their gospel is being met by them when they do bad stuff?

What are you talking about? Islam doesn't condone or agree with what daesh or saudis or Erdogan do. You can make fun of daesh all you want and make fun of MBS while you're at it. But you seem to believe Islam is evil, not the people doing evil things are evil. Whereas when we make fun of these idiots, we make fun of these idiots, not Christianity. If your goal is to go after and make fun of Muslims, by Al means the floor is yours. If your intention is to misrepresent Islam and what the religion is and make fun of that misrepresentation, you can do that but it's not easy we are doing to Christians here. Make fun of wahabism as well, it's a disease from Muslims and Islam as well. Goat fuckers international aka Daesh is a prime target to make fun of. You have so may options. What about Khamenei or Sissy? Maybe try Imran Khan and how hypocritical he is. Make fun of Modhi as well. Put netenyahu in there as well. Go at it

Owww are you going to pretend there aren't thousand of people that make fun of christianity as a whole but get offended if you mock another religion?

Just see that we got a post saying that all christians are idiots, and no one had an issue or got a moderation.

And funnier here is seeing people complaining about secularity on christian countries, I don't remember any that isn't secular or that chase after other religious minorities, but islamic countries persecuting is still very common. They are basically doing what could be said christians done 5 centuries ago.



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DonFerrari said:
Jumpin said:

Huh? Not once did I argue that.

Is this straw man argument your way of justifying this crazy video?

Have I said you did? Have I said OP is that?

Nope, what I said is that in general in this forum and other areas of western world it is fun to mock christians but not other religious, as is ok to mock male but not woman, or white but not black, etc. Would you deny this situation?

Eagle367 said:

I can make fun of Modhi, MBS, netenyahu and Khamenei all day long

Then you are fine.

Eagle367 said:

What are you talking about? Islam doesn't condone or agree with what daesh or saudis or Erdogan do. You can make fun of daesh all you want and make fun of MBS while you're at it. But you seem to believe Islam is evil, not the people doing evil things are evil. Whereas when we make fun of these idiots, we make fun of these idiots, not Christianity. If your goal is to go after and make fun of Muslims, by Al means the floor is yours. If your intention is to misrepresent Islam and what the religion is and make fun of that misrepresentation, you can do that but it's not easy we are doing to Christians here. Make fun of wahabism as well, it's a disease from Muslims and Islam as well. Goat fuckers international aka Daesh is a prime target to make fun of. You have so may options. What about Khamenei or Sissy? Maybe try Imran Khan and how hypocritical he is. Make fun of Modhi as well. Put netenyahu in there as well. Go at it

Owww are you going to pretend there aren't thousand of people that make fun of christianity as a whole but get offended if you mock another religion?

Just see that we got a post saying that all christians are idiots, and no one had an issue or got a moderation.

And funnier here is seeing people complaining about secularity on christian countries, I don't remember any that isn't secular or that chase after other religious minorities, but islamic countries persecuting is still very common. They are basically doing what could be said christians done 5 centuries ago.

Get off your high horse.  How about this?  Fuck all religions.