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John2290 said:
Finished it. I don't really understand it story wise much at all towards the last few epiaodea but it was one hell of a journey. Great game and among the best of the generation for me, top 10 at least maybe top 5 if only it were tweaked in a few areas. Real pity about that platinum trophy though, I was really looking forward fo having a goal to work towards in end game to build out the world but oh well. Perhaps I'll come back from time to time to do a bit here and there. Lookibg back at my save files I left over 300 of thwm so I can litterqlly go to any point in the game I want to replay. Onto Jedi fallen order, I guess, just in time too.

Normally when developers make a game of this scale they just play it a lot more safe and do not provide an experience as unique as this is,this is a daring project to develop with this much resources put into the project and it is very rare amongst the AAA branch of games .

I love it and i hope it is succesfull enough to keep them making experiences as this one.



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John2290 said:
Immersiveunreality said:

Normally when developers make a game of this scale they just play it a lot more safe and do not provide an experience as unique as this is,this is a daring project to develop with this much resources put into the project and it is very rare amongst the AAA branch of games .

I love it and i hope it is succesfull enough to keep them making experiences as this one.

Yes, it is incredibly unique  I've come away with such a strong feeling about the game that I have with none othet previously, I don't quite know how to explain it. Going back to The outer worlds, onto Fallen order and even CoD Modern Warfare, they feel cheap and flimsy in comparison. Know what I mean?

Lol i got 20000 likes in half an hour yesterday just from firstly investing in the most important "structures",it is what i do first before letting others in on it :p(there might be a trophy for this idk)

Yeah see, this kind of development is the one that has a chance of making entirely new genres and if they're arent new genres then they surely bring unique experiences,it is risky and investors of massive publishing companies do not like this.(This really speaks well for Sony with how much freedom they gave him.)

Also something stupid:

Spoiler!
The junk dealer in central area quest had me thinking i needed to look for his daughter,and she kinda really acted like his daughter so it was a WTF moment when they told me about marrying eachother.


This game is so addicting, it is crazy. How many LIKES do you guys have so far? I am with 145.000.



This game is a fucking awesome rollercoaster.... Yes, the writing and dialogue is very cringe and ridicule at times, but, oh my god if Kojima knows how to make moments memorable.

Just finished chapter 9 yesterday. What an experience all around. Just realizing what have to do to get to chapter 9 was one of those Kojima magic/genious moments. When the game tells you "you probably should know what to do by now", i spent a few seconds thinking...."mmmm, is he implying doing THAT??", and after doubting a few more seconds i did it.... and it was awesome because it worked. It was a leap of faith perfectly awarded.

And the rest of the chapter..., well that's entering spoiler territory.... but let's say i got MGS vibes from it.

Super super impressive game. A full Kojima experience, with the bad (writing and dialogues sometimes) but mostly all the good things (script, characters, memorable moments) about his games.

The ending seems really close now....Super hyped to see how it goes. God bless we have a person like Kojima doing this kind of games in this industry. Without him, videogaming would be way more less interesting.



John2290 said:
Immersiveunreality said:

Lol i got 20000 likes in half an hour yesterday just from firstly investing in the most important "structures",it is what i do first before letting others in on it :p(there might be a trophy for this idk)

Yeah see, this kind of development is the one that has a chance of making entirely new genres and if they're arent new genres then they surely bring unique experiences,it is risky and investors of massive publishing companies do not like this.(This really speaks well for Sony with how much freedom they gave him.)

Also something stupid:

Spoiler!
The junk dealer in central area quest had me thinking i needed to look for his daughter,and she kinda really acted like his daughter so it was a WTF moment when they told me about marrying eachother.

What do you mean, investing first and then lettibg other people in? 

Putting resources in before connecting the distribution center/windmill/other of that area,cause that is when you also connect that area and what you build with other people playing the game right?

I might be wrong.



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John2290 said:
Immersiveunreality said:

Putting resources in before connecting the distribution center/windmill/other of that area,cause that is when you also connect that area and what you build with other people playing the game right?

I might be wrong.

Oh yeah, I get yeah. Building the road. Indeed it seems that when you connect you get a chunck of what people provided but it leaves a bit left for you to fill yourself. I've only had people actuslly finish roads on my network 3 times in the course of about 50 hours being in the mid west. Your way makes sense, get those ziplines down while you journey though and the road becomes a secondary mode of travel. 

Well on a sidenote i must give props to you for always making these discscussion threads after the launch of the mostly hyped games,most interesting threads on this forum to be a part of imo.



50h playing.
I just reached chapter 8.
I understand if you only follow the story the game isn't that long, but if you want to enjoy it the way it was meant to be this game is very lengthy.



John2290 said:
youngbr said:

50h playing.
I just reached chapter 8.
I understand if you only follow the story the game isn't that long, but if you want to enjoy it the way it was meant to be this game is very lengthy.

There is a word for that. It's a girthy game, lots of girth and thickness to it. I'm at 75 hours and about 10 of those are post credits. I log on and I just can't stop. I may have to delete it off my HDD if this keeps up, lost over 4 hours today just repairing my structures while managing deliveries and I swear it felt like 20 minutes had passed. Crazy that a game like this can be so addicting. 

Today for me was the day to make the Ziplines. I did well, but it frustrated me I still couldn't find a way to link "Robotics"? I think that is the name. I am playing in my language so here it is a bit different.

Ziplines are so fun and trying to find a way to link the mountains places is very cool.



Finished the game yesterday at almost 60h of playtime. What a ride....

After finish it, i can now confidently say that this game has way better gameplay than story/writing which is my ultimate surprise about this game. The story concept/theme is fascinating, and the characters are interesting, but Kojima's writing has got worse with the years and Death Stranding is probably the worst in this case. His writing is basically based in saying a LOT but telling almost nothing. It's very expositive or too much vague. Too much cringe or too much messy. The only scenes where i didn't find any problems where with Mads Mikkelsen's character, which i found by far being the best ones. Kojima's "moments" or "experiences" work better when they're interactive, when they make you do something. When you sit and just listen to dialogue they mostly end in a feeling of...."ugh, was that necessary??". I barely understood the motivations of some characters either because i was lost between so much dialogue that i did not understand, and i am guy who understood the ending of Evangelion when i was 15 yeras old, so i know one thing or two about complicated themes and stories.... I guess i'll need a rewatch and some help from the internet to understand exactly what happened. In conclusion, the writing is a 5/10 at best.

It's a shame because the rest of the game is a 9-10/10 easily. The gaming loop is addicting, the setting is awesome and is a pleasure to explore it and find ways to move on. Giving deliveries to progress the world is really awarded, and the items they give to you in the game are always useful and fun to use. Even some boss battles can be spectacular and tense too.

Audiovisually this game is awesome, and the use of the music is very emotional. There's a moment in the last chapter where the use of one the main songs is used perfecly. It was one of those magic moments i mentioned earlier. That made the last scene very good at the end, so you really finish the game satisfactorily.

With a better writing this game could have competed for GOTG for me. Despite that, this game is still a 9/10 for me, and a top 5 PS4 game overall. Just behind the level of God of War, The Witcher III, Horizon Zero Dawn, on par with games like Uncharted 4, Nier Automata, Spider-Man, Metal Gear Solid V and ahead of games like Resident Evil 2, Red Dead Redemption II, Bloodborne.

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John2290 said:
I can't stop playing. I'm at over 85 hours and I'm still not even close to being bored. Platinum, I guess if I can manage the legend of legend deliveries.

I'm at Chapter 6 now,not playing all days as i just wait till i can get longer gamingsessions for it.

It is addicting and new gameplayelements are constantly being tossed in.