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irstupid said:
pokoko said:

Why are you typing like that?  

Why?  I don't see how less competition is good for the consumer.  

Less competition? Ha

Normally yes, but at the moment it seems that anyone and everyone can pop in and say "we are streaming now, and charge $10-15"

They either last or decide to shut down. No one is ever lowering their prices, which is what competition is supposed to do. 

Yep. Basically all this good competition just fractured what was on Netflix for a single 15-20 sub for 10 subs of 10-15. Not a great gain for customers.

And similar stuff happened to crunchyroll that was also a single stop for anime, but all this other non-specialized stream decided to have some anime on them and gone hunting some licenses and crunchy lost them.



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Sony knows Disney+ is going to take over anyways lol



thismeintiel said:
pokoko said:

Why are you typing like that?  

Why?  I don't see how less competition is good for the consumer.  

It's pretty obvious. Some competition is great. But, when there is too much, especially with these streaming services, things aren't great.

Everyone's seeing the success of Netflix and Hulu, and instead of just getting paid to put there content on there for everyone, they want a bigger piece of the pie. So, now everyone is removing content or making it too expensive for those services to pay for that content and keep their sub price low, moving it to their own service instead.

We are actually getting to the point where it is more expensive to sub to all of these services than it was to have a decent cable package. Something that wasn't supposed to happen with this great streaming future.

It is all walking to people going back to torrent.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

twintail said:
hunter_alien said:

True, but they never got the price/content right and all other competitors pulled ahead of it. In all honesty, it always felt half-assed a bit. Who even pays that insane amount for live tv anymore? Are service providers that incredibly expensive in the US? 

yeah, so too little too late would be incorrect. 

Yeah. Maybe so. But in all honesty with the prices we have over the pond, it did seem so. But I guess then we can simply churn it down to break-neck competition. 



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thismeintiel said:
pokoko said:

Why are you typing like that?  

Why?  I don't see how less competition is good for the consumer.  

It's pretty obvious. Some competition is great. But, when there is too much, especially with these streaming services, things aren't great.

Everyone's seeing the success of Netflix and Hulu, and instead of just getting paid to put there content on there for everyone, they want a bigger piece of the pie. So, now everyone is removing content or making it too expensive for those services to pay for that content and keep their sub price low, moving it to their own service instead.

We are actually getting to the point where it is more expensive to sub to all of these services than it was to have a decent cable package. Something that wasn't supposed to happen with this great streaming future.

That makes no sense in this case.  This wasn't a service that fractured the market, it was a service that tried to be inclusive.  It was the opposite of what you're saying.



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I was ready to at least try it when it launched, but I live in Canada, and when it comes to streaming services, Canada's gonna Canada. Still no Hulu! I'm not even a big sub streaming service guy, but PS Vue and Hulu are 2 I've wanted to have legit chance to try.

As for the shutdown, it's a timely at least. Looking forward to seeing how the whole streaming subscription mess shakes out, now that the facade of streaming saving all of us from the tyranny of cable TV has been clearly distilled to it's most natural human essence.

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Leynos said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Thats a valid argument in regard to buying stuff digitally. But PS Vue is irrelevant to that argument. Its just a TV streaming service.

The concept of TV is becoming pretty obsolete unless you really enjoy live stuff like sports and news.

Stadia is a streaming service. You pay monthly then have to pay full price for games on top of that...to stream a game. So when Google does shut it down. All that money is gone down the toilet. So when I see even if just a TV streaming service,I see the same for gaming services like Stadia. At least with TV you just pay your $10 a month and not asked to then buy the films on top of it.

Well youre making my point. Paying for access to streaming content is not the same as buying digital content.

I dont know much about Stadia but I dont have much faith in yet. Seems like theyre jumping into it without much incentives or even exclusives.

In comparison MS's streaming service could require a Gamepass subscription but also sell games in the digital store.



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Every streaming service is a service that fractures the market no body is going to have 5 different services to watch one show on each



I have Vue. Nice sevice. Not much to complain about. Going to go with Hulu + Live TV. I almost went with Hulu + Live TV a while back, but at the time, no support for Android TV and no AMC. Now, Hulu supports Android TV, but still no AMC. I gave up on Walking Dead so the no AMC is a non-issue now anyway.



LivingMetal said:
I have Vue. Nice sevice. Not much to complain about. Going to go with Hulu + Live TV. I almost went with Hulu + Live TV a while back, but at the time, no support for Android TV and no AMC. Now, Hulu supports Android TV, but still no AMC. I gave up on Walking Dead so the no AMC is a non-issue now anyway.

I've been giving another look at YouTube and Hulu with Live TV for the last 24 hours. YouTube is much more similar to Vue. The Hulu UI is not suited for Live TV. The Pricing, Channel Lineup,  and the features on offer with YouTube are supirior as well. I initially wanted to go with Hulu, but it looks like YouTube is going to win my business. 

Now, for the sake of many of my family members, I hope Sony opens up the ability to use some of these other services. I have XBO, so I have options. The rest of my family all have PS4 as their only device for streaming to their main display. 



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