Not being a power whore, but more one looking for the best I can get staying silent and low-power consumption, actually I'm more disappointed that I'll still have to wait probably more than one year to see a Zen 3 + Arcturus APU.

It doesn't when game publishers are moving away from Steam anyways so PC gamers are still pretty much left in the same dilemma as those cloud gaming subscribers in the end ... 

It is becoming increasingly impossible to do preservation on PC because everything other than GoG or even Steam are gaining traction ... 

If you're a PC gamer, you're forced to use either Activision, EA, or Ubisoft's own authentication system even if you purchased those games from Steam so it's no biggie if you lose control of hardware as well because the compelling case to keep it doesn't exist anymore ... 

Depends. If AMD emmploys RNDA2 on Navi 20, then possibly it will have the tracing of rays.
The rumors I have seen have pegged it at 60 CU's though... But early days yet... And grains of salt need to be taken with all rumors.

In saying that, I am keen as ducks nuts for AMD Arcturus.

Steam is the defacto platform on the PC.

Cracks exist for EA/Origin/Blizzard/Ubisoft's games on their respective stores... So your argument is still pretty much redundant.

As far as 'cracks' existing on other digital retailers what exactly are you implying ? Is it piracy or some other workarounds ? I've never heard of anyone been able to game the online authentication system ... 

If you're not comfortable sharing the details publicly then feel free to PM me and maybe we can discuss it in privacy since we're derailing the thread a little bit ... 

Do we even know if Navi can do 3 shader engines? I don't think GCN ever could as there is no gcn gpus with 3 shader engines. And I think that in Navi that each shader engine is limited to 20CU's. You can probably do less than 20CU's per shader engine so a small gpu/apu with 12/14/16 CU should be possible.

Then it also seems when you do cut-down versions of gpus you need to disable 2CU in each shader engine so in Navi 10 you must disable 4CU's at the time so 36/32/28 CU's is only possible in cut-down versions. This is my guess.

I don't see why not.
Still early days yet to be playing hypothetical's with the smaller details though.

I still dont have much hope. They look ok, but they are still more power hungry than Nvidia cards and arent much better from a performance/ Dollar view. I want AMD to be competitive, but they arent there yet. Ryzen 3 looks great, but unless they drop the price significantly on the RX 5000 series cards, they are gonna be hurting.

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And here we are again Pema... Talking about the Fury X 4 years later! My how the time flies! The world really has come full circle hasnt it?

Reviews are out, and the cards are okay. I guess. A 2060 has 160 TDP, while a 5700 has 180 TDP. Not that huge of a difference. Temps and performance seem to be about the same give or take a few degrees/FPS. 5700 has 2GB more of RAM so there's that. But it lacks Ray Tracing which is kind of going to be a big deal eventually. 

What kills it for me right now though is the lack of Fans in any of the 5700 models. Blowers are dumb and noisy. Hopefully some company puts together a fan based model for around $300. The official launch editions of new GPUs are always more expensive than the ones that come later. So with any luck 5700 models with a fan will be $50 less than Nvidia's competition. 

P.S. The new Ryzen CPUs are just flat out better than Intel's CPUs. IMO 2700, or 2700X were great bang for your buck CPUs. New Ryzens are even better bang for your buck, and the 3900X beats Intel's best CPU in most everything.