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Will Avengers:Endgame beat Avatar?

Yes 68 80.00%
 
No 17 20.00%
 
Total:85
V-r0cK said:
gergroy said:
They are going to rerelease it with some extra footage here in the next couple weeks. Looks like they aren’t going to settle for second place this time.

You're right, i just read this now as well.

https://ca.ign.com/articles/2019/06/19/avengers-endgame-returning-to-theaters-with-post-credit-extras

I wonder what they mean by the movie popping back?  I believe it's still showing across North America.  Does that mean the countries that have stopped showing it will return?

Endgame is currently around $44M shy of reaching #1.

Count me in.  I was looking for a reason to see it a fourth time.  And I know some people who would probably see it again with me for something like this.



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Yeah, now that it's being rereleased with new footage, it's a matter of when, not if.

Avatar, your move (don't think it would have the same impact to be honest with a rerelease like Titanic had or this will, though).



We need 5% of the US audience (1 in 20 folks) domestically to see the film again, after June 28th, to catch up with Avatar [not adjusted].

Current gap of $44M over $832M domestic. We can do this. #WhatEverItTakes #Bananas



This weekend's Domestic Box Office will decide who gets to wear the box office crown: will it be Green Zoe Saldana...or Blue Zoe Saldana?  I asked Doctor Strange, but he said it won't happen if he tells me.

So here's the target: 4.5 million for the Post-Credits Cut in the Domestic Box Office this weekend.  Since Endgame has recently passed the important milestone of topping Avatar's initial box office run, the re-release doesn't have to equal Avatar's to sit upon the Iron Throne.  Wait.  GoT didn't end on a high note, but Phase 3 did.  Okay, the Thanos Chair.  

Avatar the Extended Cut only made 4 million domestic in its first weekend.  I get the 4.5 million to allow for some cannibalizing of the Theatrical Cut, plus shorter legs.  I don't expect the Theatrical Cut to completely crater, and if it does, we're likely looking at the Post-Credits Cut smashing the 4.5 million target.  Internationally, Avatar did better a lot better but Endgame has a few advantages.  First, it's been confirmed that it'll open in the UK and Avatar did not.  The UK is a sizable market, so even if the Post-Credits Cut gets a limited international release (and they're on record saying it's going to be a wide international release), Endgame may have a larger potential audience to work with.  Second, the movie is still relatively fresh, whereas Avatar had months upon months to fade from the public mind.  Third: Avatar didn't have a hype machine trying to top itself, but Endgame has some big names trying to motivate people to choose a new champion.  Having a target to beat motivates people to reach for it, and Disney could very well buy up the remainder no matter how this plays out.

The Domestic haul will be the litmus test to measure interest, however.  The Domestic:International split should be roughly the same ratio and will probably be just as front-loaded.  If it fails to hit 3 million, that means the audience probably has had its fill and it'll probably fade away in the final stretch, extra markets be damned.  There's some wiggle room in the 3-4.5 million range because Endgame doesn't need to do as well.  If it hits the target, that's a powerful indicator before the international records confirm it.

Re-releases, even for titans such as Gone With the Hand, tend to whimper in the box office though.  Avatar is among the most successful, so the bar may actually be fantastically higher than it seems.  It could be said that the odds are 14 000 605 to 1, but it sure feels like this could be the one.  

And we should know on Sunday.


Can anyone photoshop a Zoe Saldana arm wrestling herself?  Gold star if one is green and the other blue.



Posting on July 1st...the gap is now under $24M worldwide, not adjusted. If it can maintain momentum, or Far From Home giving it a solid booster...



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Wow that's really close!! If Avengers can just stay in theaters for the remaining of the month of July surely it can achieve another +$24M boost.



If they had just waited a few month like September or October i think a re-release could have done it. Not in June when it is still in theatres and there is other stuff to watch



Nothing to see here, move along

The gap is less then $20 million now. Even if it has a somewhat shorter theatrical run then the previous Avengers movie domestically it still should stay in theaters long enough to make another $20 million plus domestically. I'm guessing it will stay in theaters domestically until at least early August.



Chris Hu said:
The gap is less then $20 million now. Even if it has a somewhat shorter theatrical run then the previous Avengers movie domestically it still should stay in theaters long enough to make another $20 million plus domestically. I'm guessing it will stay in theaters domestically until at least early August.

Domestically? That seems a tall order. The Last Jedi, for instance, had less than $10 million left after it posted a ~$4m weekend, and that was with 20 - 25% less theaters than Endgame has right now.



 

 

 

 

 

Chris Hu said:
The gap is less then $20 million now. Even if it has a somewhat shorter theatrical run then the previous Avengers movie domestically it still should stay in theaters long enough to make another $20 million plus domestically. I'm guessing it will stay in theaters domestically until at least early August.

So close! Seems like it still has a good chance as long as it's not completely removed from all theaters.