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HollyGamer said:
MrWayne said:
72 hour weeks are inhuman and no amount of money could justify that. China really evolved into the unholy bastard child of capitalism and socialism, a strong one party dictatorship which constantly observes its citicens and hinders them to form worker unions to fight against the awefull consequences of turbo capitalism.

Agree with u so much. Indeed it's worst of the worst, it's a combination of the worst part of human evolution combined into and reborn as the ultimate worst policy ever. Socialism + Capitalism = Hell. 

Well it depends, China picked to worst parts of both capitalism and socialism but you could also pick the best parts of both systems, like we did it in western Europe.



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Isn't it adorable when companies that pretend to be PC or CEOs that are charitable on their own countries make it by shoving the burden on another country and pretend it doesn't occur? So common with USA companies.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

MrWayne said:
72 hour weeks are inhuman and no amount of money could justify that. China really evolved into the unholy bastard child of capitalism and socialism, a strong one party dictatorship which constantly observes its citicens and hinders them to form worker unions to fight against the awefull consequences of turbo capitalism.

A lot of doctors have work weeks that are over 72h, but people like to call them greedy bastards and other stuff. Curse them for sleeping 15 min on the 24h call, etc.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
MrWayne said:
72 hour weeks are inhuman and no amount of money could justify that. China really evolved into the unholy bastard child of capitalism and socialism, a strong one party dictatorship which constantly observes its citicens and hinders them to form worker unions to fight against the awefull consequences of turbo capitalism.

A lot of doctors have work weeks that are over 72h, but people like to call them greedy bastards and other stuff. Curse them for sleeping 15 min on the 24h call, etc.

Yeah I also think that doctors shouldn't work 72 h a week and people who hate on doctors who have to work that long should reconsider their moral values.



I want to work part time hours of my choosing and cash in hand, na mean?



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m0ney said:
I want to work part time hours of my choosing and cash in hand, na mean?

I think I get this reference



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

A phenomenon that has been going on for a very long time which has recently gained media traction.

It's worth noting that it's not a phenomenon exclusive to the tech industry, my father who lives and works in China takes exactly zero vacations other than his annual trip to see me.

The fact that it's gaining media traction and public support is a sign that the collective mentality towards 'working' is changing slowly, and it's great.

I didn't read all the responses in the thread, but for the few replies I did come across:

1. Dictatorship? Yes, but nothing to do with this thread.
2. Communist country? No? it subscribed to certain communist ideologies during its early days and still do to a much lesser degree today. a more accurate description for China is that it's a one-party state
3. To the peculiar accusation/implication that this is because of communism: 996 is 100% the private sector's doing - the market and capitalists doing what they do best, without a strong hand from the government to intervene
4. Why haven't they intervened? IDK, wait and see



As a medical resident I worked 90 hours weekly for some time some would say the paycheck is worth, but not here in Brazil, where residents get paid 3000 BRL (around 760 USD)



Chris Hu said:
Working is a sweat shop somewhere in Bangladesh is worse that that. Also before the rise of unions those where pretty much common work hours in all factory jobs and on top of that child labor was also very common everywhere.

Then guess why the unions were created in the first place?

Right, to fight against these exploitative working hours (among other things, of course, and on par with job safety and work safety, as often back then operating the machines was pretty dangerous).

Such working hours are not sustainable on the long run. Workers are getting physically and emotionally exhausted to the point of becoming numb to anything not related directly to it, like family and friends. It also kills off all creativity. Hence why we say today to "work smarter, not harder"



DonFerrari said:
Isn't it adorable when companies that pretend to be PC or CEOs that are charitable on their own countries make it by shoving the burden on another country and pretend it doesn't occur? So common with USA companies.

? This is mostly about Chinese tech firms like Xiaomi, Alibaba and so on...

Not really about companies from USA even though they let Chinese companies build their stuff but that's another story.

Huawei, Xiaomi, Alibaba and all of them don't fuck up their employees because of the US