Any scientific proof that a vegan diet is healthier than a balanced diet with meat? I don't think so. I think it's not fair to conflate non vegan diets with bad diets. It's perfectly fine to have a healthy diet that includes meat, eggs and dairy. It's all about balance.

Also, what about plant rights? It seems vegans hate plants with a passion.

I think the argument gets better if we slightly modify it. "if people had to kill and manufacture what they are going to eat they would eat way less meat"

Eating meat on a daily basis is a relatively new phenomenon made possible by the industrial revolution. If everyone had to kill and manufacture their own meat we would do it in a way less efficient way than we do it right now wich would lead to higher prices for meat. Higher prices for meat leads to less meat consumption.

Well it depends which vegan you ask, some people are vegan because they don't want animals to suffer, they definitely hate plants more than animals. Other people are vegan because they think eating meat is a huge wast of resources which is true, to get 1 kg of meat, you need 100 times more farmland than for 1 kg of vegetables.

A good amount of people would possibly eat less meat and have more respect for what is killed and a small fraction might stop eating meat when they have enough other resources available(healthy nonmeat food,good sources of protein and money)

But yes humanity as a whole is not ready to just stop eating meat and it might be better to focus on the general happiness and fast and painless killing of the animals till we come closer to be able of putting up meat eating restrictions without risking the health of people that just can not afford the vegan diet that is currently a luxury diet.

So yes i agree with your post.

I don't understand how eating animals infringe on their rights. Don't animals breed and grown for human use and consumption usually enjoy really high standards of living (at least much higher than those in the wild)? They are constantly watched and fed, their health is checked 24/7, even when they are sacrificed, everyone makes sure the death is as painless as possible.

They enjoy high standards on the things that compliment the meat production but most animals raised for human consumption have a stressfull unhappy life.

I wont say there arent other options but most people buy the cheapest meat that come from those stressfull places,and you can not really blame them for it ofcourse.

Edit: I know a lot of farmers in this country that have a heart for animals and went bankrupt because they could not compete with the cheap meat from other countries with less strict animal laws.

It would be a big positive if the world went vegan. Especially at our current population levels.

Food related emissions would drop by 70%.

We would reverse the health issues plaguing the world caused by the meteoric rise in meat and animal product consumption; similar to what's been happening with the decrease in smoking.

Below is an interesting graphic which details the use of land: basically, a very small amount of the world's calories is acquired from animal products, but nearly 80% of the world's food-based farm land is dedicated to it; that means the remaining little bit of farmland used to grow plants for human consumption provides by far the majority of our nutrients. Basically, we would only need to convert 7-9% of our land to plant based food, and we would be able to regain the 68-70% of the world's food producing farmland to be returned to natural habitats. We could reverse the drastic drop in wildlife (the amount of wildlife left in the world is less than 40% of what it was in the 1970s, less than 20% of what it was before the turn of the 20th century).

It makes logical sense from multiple different angles: environmental, ethical, and ecological. The most pressing is obviously the environmental disaster currently in progress. It is occurring slowly relative to our experience, but terrifyingly quickly on a geological scale (currently, about 1 cm every 2 years, which is up from about 1 cm every 9 years in 1900, and 1 cm every 6 years in 1989); the rising economic cost will, unfortunately, only be something that can't be ignored after tremendous and irreversible damage has already been done. If the world went vegan, we would be able to offset this catastrophe by a significant amount. Population growth is a major issue, but we can mitigate the impact (and even reverse some of the current impact) substantially with a global conversion to veganism.

Here's the graphic I promised:

Then the problem is the laws that regulate animal treatment, not people's diets, wouldn't it?. In recent years there have been appearing a lot of laws that protect the integrity and well being of both cattle and wild animals, but wouldn't the sudden stop of meat consumption just mean the general sacrifice of livestock to adjust the numbers? It's like some variants of donkey in many parts of Spain, people started using them less and less due to mechanization and modern agricultural techniques, and rather than granting donkeys a more comfortable life, they are becoming extinct in some areas, because they are of no use anymore.

First bolded:Yes indeed our open market does not care(not enough) about the treatment of animals when it laws for that product change for every country that participates in the trade,money above morals and we should be glad that we are at the top of the foodchain.

Second bolded:"comfortable" life is questionable for all the hard work they had to endure and being forced to endure even when being old and sick and is becoming extinct that bad if it erases suffering?Caring about species that go extinct because they do not have a natural place anymore really borders to human control.

Again, then the answer is buy food from producers that do take care of their livestock, not just changing people's diet in such a fundamental way. People would be much open to animal's rights if they heard "Buy meat from farmers that take care of their cows" instead of "Stop eating cow".

And about the human control thing: Wouldn't it be the other way around? Species that go extinct for reasons not related to human interference should not really afect us in a moral sense, but don't we have a responsability to mantain species created by humanity for the sake of humanity, especially those that would either go extinct in the wild, or they would completely mess up the environement? If the logical conclussion of veganism became the extinction of many species, wouldn't many people (including animal activists) abandon those ideas for the sake of those animals?