The ps4 didnt have it easier because it had more competition than what the switch had at launch. Isnt the switch the only gen 9 system and that its also the only system that is also portable?

I literally just explained to you how that's not true. PS4 sold 20 million in 2017, the year Switch released. Thats nearly twice as much as Wii U+XBO sold in 2014, PS4's first year on the market.

Generations are arbitrary and mean nothing to the general consumer. You compare the primary consoles that are on the market at a given time.

Ok if gen means nothing then ps4 still didnt have it easier. Ps4 had to contend with a 1 year old wii u and xbox one on basically the same date. Switch had to contend with 4 year old ps4 and xbox one. Its not ps4 fault that the wii u and xbox one screwed up and that Ps4 was doing everything right

Who cares how old Wii U & XBO were, they were selling like shit.

You are deflecting and making up things as you go. Strong selling consoles are greater competition than poor selling consoles, age is irrelevant in this regard.

Whatever dude. Ps4 sold well because it had a reasonable price at launch and the games that were coming thats why people chose to buy it over wii u and xbox one. Ps4 didnt have it easy. They had to work for it. Its also the reason why switch sold well at launch too. As long as Playstation or nintendo do these things it will sell itself no matter the competition.

What? You were the one who brought up the "PS4 had more competition" argument, don't try acting like you weren't the one downplaying.

Yes as long as a console is priced correctly, has a great lineup of games, appealing features and strong marketing than it should sell well regardless of competition.

Don't worry, Switch will get its redesign and massively inflate the sales numbers soon enough.

I have not played a Nintendo console for other than Zelda since the N64, so you must be new.  I am someone who has been an avid Playstation fan since the PS2 and not only got a PS4 at launch, but upgraded to the Pro.  I started playing my Switch more because I like what it brings to the table, which is far more than the PS4 did in its first two years.  But please, go on about how I am a fanboy as you imply.  I find it comical to say the very least.

As someone who has actually been part of both launches, I can tell you for a fact that the PS4 had it easy.  When the competition shoots themselves in the foot right out of the gate, your argument falls flat.  The only thing you are proving with your comments is why your comments should be ignored as you try to make a point that does not exist on a regular basis.

What are you people even yapping about? What is this supposed to prove? Every launch has thousands of big and small factors that come into play in the background, it's absolutely futile to try and compare who had it "easier" than the other. The products themselves are different, everything is different. Come on.

So what if you been part of both launches. I had a wii u so I didnt buy a ps4 until ratchet and clank but i bought the switch a few days after it launched because it was the only gaming portable at that time and still is. You keep saying ps4 had it easier because the competition screwed up but dont you consider ps4 also did things right. It had great games coming, good marketing and well priced. A Playstation console is always gonna sell well with all that no matter the competition