The_Yoda said: Very few situations are EXACTLY the same which is what you at least seem to need to be able to accept an analogy. |
Again, this is my point. I think we are all intelligent enough to have a conversation about fraud in relation to the unemployment system. We don't need to simplify things with analogies to make points, so lets just say what we want to say instead of having a proxy conversation about something that is kind of like the situation we are discussing.
The_Yoda said:
A couple of you keep saying I want to stop the aid and do nothing or are under the false assumption that I only now have a problem with constant deficit and waste as a reason to argue against this bill and helping people instead of the waste. You are wrong and mis-characterize what I am saying. Let me put it this way and then I will drop it. There is a big difference between doing nothing and doing something. There is also a difference between doing something and doing something right. It is obvious that several of you are in the do something category and I am in the do something right category. Perhaps I'm just being too idealistic and you guys are being realistic. If that is the case then that is just sad for all of us. |
As for this bit, I will apologize for mischaracterizing what you were saying, however I will also say that I don't think it is a far stretch to assume that you don't think this bill should have been passed when you are criticizing me for considering it a "win" and going all "think of the children" about it. However, again, that was an assumption of mine that seems to have been incorrect so I will own that.
I agree with you that we should do something to prevent fraud. On that front, I believe several billion dollars went to states for improving the infrastructure of the unemployment system, which seems to be a solid, state led approach to combatting fraud. I personally favor leading at the Federal level, however unfortunately due to the restrictions of the budget reconciliation process that doesn't seem possible. From what I gather from your posts, you seem to favor small government. As such, I am curious, would you prefer a federal government led approach, or a state led approach to fighting fraud?