The Dems compromising on $15 min wage bill, poor/weak negotiations that will lead to a poor outcome for workers
The motivation/commitment to a fair min wage just does not appear be there in the effort to appease the Reps, bodes poorly
The Dems compromising on $15 min wage bill, poor/weak negotiations that will lead to a poor outcome for workers
The motivation/commitment to a fair min wage just does not appear be there in the effort to appease the Reps, bodes poorly
Vermont Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy (80) was briefly hospitalized today. He is Senate Pro Tempore and will preside over the impeachment of Donald Trump. He has been serving in the Senate for 46 years.
This is nerve-wrecking because if he were to become incapacitated or die as a senator, then Vermont's Republican governor could appoint a Republican to fill his senate seat. That would hand the Dem's recent majority back to the Republican side. This is why Biden could not appoint Bernie Sanders to his cabinet.
I'm not ageist, but Senators have to consider their age as they seek more terms. Part of the job is serving and representing the party that the electorate voted for. When Ted Kennedy passed early on during the Obama years, a Republican filling his vacancy robbed the Dems of their 60 seat supermajority, which led to endless obstruction.
I wish Leahy full health for a long time.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/26/patrick-leahy-hospitalized-462871
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1gWECYYOSo
Please Watch/Share this video so it gets shown in Hollywood.
| Rab said: The Dems compromising on $15 min wage bill, poor/weak negotiations that will lead to a poor outcome for workers The motivation/commitment to a fair min wage just does not appear be there in the effort to appease the Reps, bodes poorly
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Every bill to significantly increase the minimum wage seeks to do so gradually. It isn't a good thing to shock the economic system by doubling the minimum wage overnight. It isn't a compromise to say that this is going to take time, it is simply the reality of the situation. Otherwise, it is highly likely that job losses would be exaggerated, especially in the middle of a pandemic where businesses are already struggling.
This is another shit take.
The federal minimum wage should be set to $10 per hour. It can rise to $15 in about a decade. Jumping straight to $15 is madness for most of the country. Most sensible advocates know this as well. You always ask high.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1gWECYYOSo
Please Watch/Share this video so it gets shown in Hollywood.
https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/sanders-to-re-introduce-15-minimum-wage-bill-in-first-week-of-new-congress/
2024?
What a sellout, establishment, DNC-lite, Democrat, centrist, globalist neoliberal!
sundin13 said:
Every bill to significantly increase the minimum wage seeks to do so gradually. It isn't a good thing to shock the economic system by doubling the minimum wage overnight. It isn't a compromise to say that this is going to take time, it is simply the reality of the situation. Otherwise, it is highly likely that job losses would be exaggerated, especially in the middle of a pandemic where businesses are already struggling. This is another shit take. |
Yeah sure, its only been years, people in desperate need can just wait many more years for the program to only just start as you comfortably be all compromising and "moderate"
Your take is out of touch with the reality of people, the working poor, to save business's that will only profit when workers (their future customers) throughout the country have higher disposable incomes anyway, they just don't see it yet, because they are looking though a Rep Lite "Moderate" lens and listening to Rep Lite "Moderate" talking points
It's this BS that the left is fighting against.. still remember the "Moderate" talking point of how much M4A will cost and how bad it will be to lose your employers PRIVATE insurance even when millions were losing their jobs
Last edited by Rab - on 26 January 2021| Signalstar said: The federal minimum wage should be set to $10 per hour. It can rise to $15 in about a decade. Jumping straight to $15 is madness for most of the country. Most sensible advocates know this as well. You always ask high. |
A Decade???
So having most of the developed world with far higher minimum wages is madness?
Having your customer base with a much higher disposable income is madness?
Letting the desperate working poor go on for a decade more years suffering is madness?

Rab said:
Yeah sure, its only been years, people in desperate need can just wait many more years again as you comfortably be all compromising and "moderate" Your take is out of touch with the reality of people, the working poor, to save business's that will only profit when workers (their future customers) throughout the country have higher disposable incomes anyway, they just don't see it yet, because they are looking though a Rep Lite "Moderate" lens and listening to Rep Lite "Moderate" talking points It's this BS that the left is fighting against.. still remember the "Moderate" talking point of how much M4A will cost and how bad it will be to lose your employers PRIVATE insurance even when millions were losing their jobs |
It isn't about being moderate (no matter how many times you put the word "moderate" in quotes, I still didn't say it), it is about not tanking the economy WHILE the economy is tanking. Businesses can handle an increase in minimum wage if it is done correctly. Every significant increase in minimum wage is done slowly in order to not shock the system, which allows business to adjust to account for the changes that accompany changing minimum wage. Moaning about how the Dems want to gradually double the minimum wage is so incredibly stupid, I can't fathom how someone who agrees with me on so much could be this far off the mark.
sundin13 said:
It isn't about being moderate (no matter how many times you put the word "moderate" in quotes, I still didn't say it), it is about not tanking the economy WHILE the economy is tanking. Businesses can handle an increase in minimum wage if it is done correctly. Every significant increase in minimum wage is done slowly in order to not shock the system, which allows business to adjust to account for the changes that accompany changing minimum wage. Moaning about how the Dems want to gradually double the minimum wage is so incredibly stupid, I can't fathom how someone who agrees with me on so much could be this far off the mark. |
You obviously did not watch the video :p
His main point was concerned with the negotiating strategy of the Dems which he thought of as poor, partly to do with timelines and partly to do with the starting wage (he suggested $20 min, but happy with an eventual $15).. going in so soft when bargaining with the Reps is a bad compromise waiting to happen ("Moderates" of course are happy with that)
I agree Business needs sometime to adjust, but not a decade or even 5 years.. that's just taking the piss on the working poor
Are you "Moderate" as well when it comes to Climate Change?
Last edited by Rab - on 27 January 2021It will take a long time for America to recover from Trump's politics of fear and hate that divided the nation. America now has a chance to recover under Biden's Presidency. A President that can unite the country and clean up Trump's mess is needed.
Increasing minimum wage to $15 per hour, bringing back Obamacare, taking action on Climate Change and throwing out Trump's bad policies are a start. A higher minimum wage will ensure the working poor have a liveable wage and the extra spending will go directly back into the economy. Tax cuts for the rich are bad economic policy because tax cuts for the rich are saved and do not go back into the economy. Tax cuts for lower and middle income workers are more likely to be spent than saved and go back into the economy.
Last edited by Phoenix20 - on 27 January 2021