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Wish there was more positive things going on for my country but the only thing I can think of is the rich who got a nice tax cut a couple years back.  It's good to know that they are more well off while putting us further into debt.



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OTBWY said:
iron_megalith said:

I'd rather take a ""scumbag vigilante"" that is willing to protect businesses of innocent business owners than an anarchist that is preaching social justice after burning down everything on his path including the sanctity of a person's home or innocent people's livelihood. Footages from multiple cameras also shows that he didn't fire the first shot and that he was chased down by someone and that he fired in self defense.

The Jacob Blake incident was another conveniently framed story to incite more anger by overtly adding racial elements to it. Just like what they did with George Floyd. However, Jacob Blake's incident is far less complicated and was more of him playing stupid games.

Like I said, what kind of feudal country do you all think the US is, that justifying a vigilante MURDERER is okay like this guy here? ^

If they want a civil war, then it is time to take arms. Don't preach to me if about civility when the other side are acting like animals. Time and time again, I have said in this thread that we need to have people call out these extremists and bring discussion to the table. What I got here are a couple of posters gas lighting.

It's been over 3 months of this crap that's been going on over and over again. If the citizens are starting to stand up and resist this madness, then I am glad that they did so. Also, I'm glad that Wisconsin's government decided to deploy Feds into this mess rather than let them get a foothold.

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CaptainExplosion said:
Zoombael said:

Almost certainly? Not almost, absolutley certainly. There is no reason to make exceptions. Whether it be political or religious extremism, i'm always against. At the moment it isn't well funded right wing radicals agitating the masses without end. Do i care what impression advocates of hostile ideologies have of me? Not really.

Oh really? Then what would you call the Trump administration? Or Tucker Carlson and that scumbag vigilante he supported?

This is what America has devolved into since the 2010s:

America is a cesspool of systematized racism towards anyone who's not a white male, where cops are turning out to be domestic terrorists passing themselves off as a form of protection, Latino children are separated from their parents and locked in cages, and the so-called president uses his slander against non-whites to gain support from the fanatical masses. Sorry not sorry for bringing up the usual comparison, but America has become another Nazi Germany.

The picture is a good example for the distorted reality in your head.

Blake was not simply walking away. He was armed with a knife and after successfully breaking loose from the cops he wanted to enter the car with children sitting in the backseat.

Rittenhouse was defending himself against multiple assailants, one of which was armed with a gun. He surrendered himself immediately and didn't resist arrest.

I doubt you're proficient in history enough to understand its significance.



Hunting Season is done...

OTBWY said:
You know, I find it fascinating how every time in the US a black man gets shot, even with video of him facing away from the police, shot in back. Unarmed. Killed by a whole squad with a knee on the neck. Just all these kinds of incidents. I get so surprised how racists know to bullshit their way around it.

"He was resisting!"
"He smoked weed once and got caught!"
"He was mouthing off!"
"He was stealing"
"He was doing drugs"
"He had to do detention in school once!"

All this is bullshit mental gymnastics to justify the DEATH of a person. In what country, are all the things above a cause for death? What kind of feudal country do these racists right wingers have in mind that stealing, mouthing off, running away, resisting arrest but being unarmed are a reason for police to execute a man?

I don't like saying this but.. right wing extremism has only one outcome: Death. It is a death cult. And I hope that once Trump is out, this kind of disgusting sick ideology melts away.

Are you calling out someone in this thread or what are you referring to with this strawman stuff? Please provide some context.

OTBWY said:
iron_megalith said:

I'd rather take a ""scumbag vigilante"" that is willing to protect businesses of innocent business owners than an anarchist that is preaching social justice after burning down everything on his path including the sanctity of a person's home or innocent people's livelihood. Footages from multiple cameras also shows that he didn't fire the first shot and that he was chased down by someone and that he fired in self defense.

The Jacob Blake incident was another conveniently framed story to incite more anger by overtly adding racial elements to it. Just like what they did with George Floyd. However, Jacob Blake's incident is far less complicated and was more of him playing stupid games.

Like I said, what kind of feudal country do you all think the US is, that justifying a vigilante MURDERER is okay like this guy here? ^

You know, each country has its own laws. And in many states of US its justified to use lethal force to defend yourself and property. And in the case of this vigilante, jury might eventually find his actions justified.

It's ok to discuss if a killing was lawfully justified, it's not the same thing as morally justified. 

I personally think it's twisted from a get go to outright justify use of deadly force to protect property or even your own life. 



Mmm, that feeling when you're standing up for murderers.



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forest-spirit said:
Mmm, that feeling when you're standing up for murderers.

I feel like I'm reading 4chan more and more each day...



forest-spirit said:
Mmm, that feeling when you're standing up for murderers.

That feeling when you know the opposition has nothing to counter and the only way to protect that image created in their angry malleable minds is to discredit.



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Zoombael said:

Blake was not simply walking away. He was armed with a knife and after successfully breaking loose from the cops he wanted to enter the car with children sitting in the backseat.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/27/facebook-posts/no-jacob-blake-did-not-brandish-knife-gun-kenosha/

Zoombael said:

Rittenhouse was defending himself against multiple assailants, one of which was armed with a gun. He surrendered himself immediately and didn't resist arrest.

He illegally brandished a firearm in a place he had no business being, killed someone, fled, killed two more people, put his hands up when cops passed by, fled across state lines when he was not apprehended, then was later arrested for murder. I'd hardly call that an innocent case of self defense.



TallSilhouette said:
Zoombael said:

Rittenhouse was defending himself against multiple assailants, one of which was armed with a gun. He surrendered himself immediately and didn't resist arrest.

He illegally brandished a firearm in a place he had no business being, killed someone, fled, killed two more people, put his hands up when cops passed by, fled across state lines when he was not apprehended, then was later arrested for murder. I'd hardly call that an innocent case of self defense.

There's already a video that stitches several videos and puts the events in chronological order. It debunks this false narrative that you are trying to push here. All his shots were defensive. Those assholes had the nerve to chase down a person with a rifle and fire shots into the air to instigate. What came next is survival mode.

It's arguable if he should be there or whether he is legally allowed to hold the gun. I'll let the case be decided by the system. But they can never paint this incident as a murder.



iron_megalith said:

It's arguable if he should be there or whether he is legally allowed to hold the gun.

It really isn't...