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SpokenTruth said:
StarDoor said:

That's an incomplete list. XBO sold more than PS4 in July, August, September, and October 2016.

Hmm, any idea what was its best year? X/12?

Just among home consoles, 2014 and 2015 are tied for best year at 10/12.

If you also count handhelds, 2014 is the sole winner with 10/12.



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Oh nice thankyou. It seems like Switch have a good chance to break that record.



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Jranation said:
Farsala said:
Every console is quite a bit lower than I had predicted/hoped. I usually predict pessimistically to counter that, but even then they are low. Obviously, the lack of announcements and excitement from the big 3 could have affected February quite a bit this year.

The Switch numbers are low? They had nothing big released on feb. Just a gift card deal. 

Yeah it is a bit lower for the winning console.

2019: Switch 365k

2018: PS4 363k

2017: PS4 410k

2016: PS4 405k

2015: 3ds 395k

2014: PS4 285k

 

It matched 2015 and 2018 PS4, but a bit lower than the feb highs. Keep in mind Feb is usually pretty poor in releases anyway. Although I didn't expect Switch to beat those highs, I still expected a better performance.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8982525



Farsala said:
Jranation said:

The Switch numbers are low? They had nothing big released on feb. Just a gift card deal. 

Yeah it is a bit lower for the winning console.

2019: Switch 365k

2018: PS4 363k

2017: PS4 410k

2016: PS4 405k

2015: 3ds 395k

2014: PS4 285k

 

It matched 2015 and 2018 PS4, but a bit lower than the feb highs. Keep in mind Feb is usually pretty poor in releases anyway. Although I didn't expect Switch to beat those highs, I still expected a better performance.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8982525

PS4

2014-285k

2015-342k

2016-405k

2017-398k

2018-363k

2019-286k

 

Switch did better than 2014, 2015 & 2019, below 2016 & 2017 and about tied with 2018. There really is nothing low about its performance, it had a really good month.



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zorg1000 said:
Farsala said:

Yeah it is a bit lower for the winning console.

2019: Switch 365k

2018: PS4 363k

2017: PS4 410k

2016: PS4 405k

2015: 3ds 395k

2014: PS4 285k

 

It matched 2015 and 2018 PS4, but a bit lower than the feb highs. Keep in mind Feb is usually pretty poor in releases anyway. Although I didn't expect Switch to beat those highs, I still expected a better performance.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8982525

PS4

2014-285k

2015-342k

2016-405k

2017-398k

2018-363k

2019-286k

 

Switch did better than 2014, 2015 & 2019, below 2016 & 2017 and about tied with 2018. There really is nothing low about its performance, it had a really good month.

I didn't say it was low.

All I said is that it was lower than the other console's better months, and lower than my predictions. Thus, it underperformed to my expectations. Just because it was #1 and sold quite well, doesn't mean it performs to my expectations.

Lets compare to Jan.

PS4

2014- 271k

2015- 189k

2016- 227k

2017- ~227k

2018- 254k

2019- 195k

Switch

2018- 270k

2019-  284k

Switch January's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS4 January's.

Switch Feb? unfortunately not.



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Farsala said:
zorg1000 said:

PS4

2014-285k

2015-342k

2016-405k

2017-398k

2018-363k

2019-286k

 

Switch did better than 2014, 2015 & 2019, below 2016 & 2017 and about tied with 2018. There really is nothing low about its performance, it had a really good month.

I didn't say it was low.

All I said is that it was lower than the other console's better months, and lower than my predictions. Thus, it underperformed to my expectations. Just because it was #1 and sold quite well, doesn't mean it performs to my expectations.

Lets compare to Jan.

PS4

2014- 271k

2015- 189k

2016- 227k

2017- ~227k

2018- 254k

2019- 195k

Switch

2018- 270k

2019-  284k

Switch January's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS4 January's.

Switch Feb? unfortunately not.

Well, tbf, Switch had no noteworthy release that month while the PS4 did get some pretty big ones: For Honor and Horizon: Zero Dawn in 2017 while 2016 had Firewatch, Far Cry Primal and Heavy Rain. 2018 was more toned down, with some mid-cards like UFC 3, Dynasty Warriors 9 and Kingdom Come: Deliverance, but that's still bigger than anything the Switch got this month.



Farsala said:
zorg1000 said:

PS4

2014-285k

2015-342k

2016-405k

2017-398k

2018-363k

2019-286k

 

Switch did better than 2014, 2015 & 2019, below 2016 & 2017 and about tied with 2018. There really is nothing low about its performance, it had a really good month.

I didn't say it was low.

All I said is that it was lower than the other console's better months, and lower than my predictions. Thus, it underperformed to my expectations. Just because it was #1 and sold quite well, doesn't mean it performs to my expectations.

Lets compare to Jan.

PS4

2014- 271k

2015- 189k

2016- 227k

2017- ~227k

2018- 254k

2019- 195k

Switch

2018- 270k

2019-  284k

Switch January's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS4 January's.

Switch Feb? unfortunately not.

Well ya you kinda did.

Comparing Jan 2018 to other years without taking into account it had an extra week doesnt seen right to me.

But yes historically PS consoles have a higher Jan to Feb boost compared to Nintendo. This was true last year as well when Switch outsold PS4 in January but was outsold in Feb.



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zorg1000 said:
Farsala said:

I didn't say it was low.

All I said is that it was lower than the other console's better months, and lower than my predictions. Thus, it underperformed to my expectations. Just because it was #1 and sold quite well, doesn't mean it performs to my expectations.

Lets compare to Jan.

PS4

2014- 271k

2015- 189k

2016- 227k

2017- ~227k

2018- 254k

2019- 195k

Switch

2018- 270k

2019-  284k

Switch January's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS4 January's.

Switch Feb? unfortunately not.

Well ya you kinda did.

Comparing Jan 2018 to other years without taking into account it had an extra week doesnt seen right to me.

But yes historically PS consoles have a higher Jan to Feb boost compared to Nintendo. This was true last year as well when Switch outsold PS4 in January but was outsold in Feb.

You can take that into account too. It still would match other years with only 4 weeks, and 2019 did quite well with only 4 weeks. I want to see that Jan to Feb boost for Nintendo Switch is all I am really saying. 2019 January (and holiday 2018) really pushed my expectations with regards to the Switch.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
Farsala said:

I didn't say it was low.

All I said is that it was lower than the other console's better months, and lower than my predictions. Thus, it underperformed to my expectations. Just because it was #1 and sold quite well, doesn't mean it performs to my expectations.

Lets compare to Jan.

PS4

2014- 271k

2015- 189k

2016- 227k

2017- ~227k

2018- 254k

2019- 195k

Switch

2018- 270k

2019-  284k

Switch January's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS4 January's.

Switch Feb? unfortunately not.

Well, tbf, Switch had no noteworthy release that month while the PS4 did get some pretty big ones: For Honor and Horizon: Zero Dawn in 2017 while 2016 had Firewatch, Far Cry Primal and Heavy Rain. 2018 was more toned down, with some mid-cards like UFC 3, Dynasty Warriors 9 and Kingdom Come: Deliverance, but that's still bigger than anything the Switch got this month.

2017 was okay I guess. 2016 isn't noteworthy, Far Cry Primal sold 363k with all platforms combined and shooters get a higher share on XB1/PC. PS4 still managed 404k.

 

In Jan of 2019 Switch did get NSBU deluxe and the Switch did quite well, so I expected a stronger Feb too. It isn't bad, but I agree that more games would definitely help.



Rough estimates:
Switch: 350k
PS4 : 250k
Xbone: 200k