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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 19 January 2019

DonFerrari said:

No problem and no need to discuss if you were or not, as you said it wasn't your intention and that is enough to me.

And yes both are on the brink of either having a price cut or sales level being lower than what they should be (they certainly are below what they could be with the cuts).

Ok, glad we could come to an understanding then  

I personally kind of think that the price cut for Switch will come in the form of a mini releasing around late Q2/early Q3. Not sure about the PS4 though ... 



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FarleyMcFirefly said:
curl-6 said:

The real test will be how well Switch holds up over the next few months, as barring a surprise announcement of Animal Crossing coming sooner than expected, it looks like they've dropped the ball for the first half of the year.

It really boggles my mind that they do this every year... So far it is on par with last year (which was pretty dull) with nothing of note in February. Kinda like last year's January.

Well, almost every year, they managed to pace themselves fairly well in 2017 with a system seller every 3 months or so. But yeah, I don't get why most years they can't seem to organize a consistent release schedule of significant games to save their lives.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

AngryLittleAlchemist said:
TheBlackNaruto said:

Who said a price cut was an excuse? I just saw people say the PS4 was doing as expected in conjuncture with its age and price. No one ever said it doesn't work for any other console as far as I rad anyway.  And of course both would do a bit better with a price cut that is a given. How long has it been since the PS4 had an official price cut though?

Also just out of curiosity do you know how long it was before the PS4/XB1 had their first price cuts?

I said the price cut was an excuse, not that other people said it was an excuse. And I said this because Kerotan's comment says : "For it's age and price. If it was $199 now it would be doing great. " Which is true, but it can be said for the Switch as well. Both are arguably overdue for a price cut, so I don't see the reason to imply the PS4 needs one and leave it at that. It's not like the PS4 is the only console in this comparison which could use a cut. They are both doing very well considering the price they are at. 

Ironically I closed out of the tab right when you replied to me : P Here it is:

http://time.com/2848313/xbox-one-price-cut/

https://www.polygon.com/2015/10/8/9477625/ps4-price-drop-349-us

Sony cut the price of the PS4 by $50 like, almost exactly two years after their console launched (technically a month and two weeks before the 2nd anniversary). And the 3DS is infamous for having to have a steep price cut just like 6 months after launch. Which means that the Switch will probably go the longest without a price cut this generation. Though I do expect a Switch lite to be announced at $250 in a few months.

Both are selling pretty well, Switch is even way up compared to last year and is even beating 2018 PS4 despite it's huge MHW boost early that year. Under these circumstances I don't see Nintendo dropping the price, the only thing I could see coming would be a console+game bundle for the 299$ pricetag, but no real pricedrop yet.

For the PS4, I'll wait for NPD for final judgement, to see if our numbers are correct, but after those disappointing December sales I'd say it's slowly getting time a pricecut. Don't expect more than 50$/€, though, PS4 sales are not crashing down like the Wii did in it's heyday



Bofferbrauer2 said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

I said the price cut was an excuse, not that other people said it was an excuse. And I said this because Kerotan's comment says : "For it's age and price. If it was $199 now it would be doing great. " Which is true, but it can be said for the Switch as well. Both are arguably overdue for a price cut, so I don't see the reason to imply the PS4 needs one and leave it at that. It's not like the PS4 is the only console in this comparison which could use a cut. They are both doing very well considering the price they are at. 

Ironically I closed out of the tab right when you replied to me : P Here it is:

http://time.com/2848313/xbox-one-price-cut/

https://www.polygon.com/2015/10/8/9477625/ps4-price-drop-349-us

Sony cut the price of the PS4 by $50 like, almost exactly two years after their console launched (technically a month and two weeks before the 2nd anniversary). And the 3DS is infamous for having to have a steep price cut just like 6 months after launch. Which means that the Switch will probably go the longest without a price cut this generation. Though I do expect a Switch lite to be announced at $250 in a few months.

Both are selling pretty well, Switch is even way up compared to last year and is even beating 2018 PS4 despite it's huge MHW boost early that year. Under these circumstances I don't see Nintendo dropping the price, the only thing I could see coming would be a console+game bundle for the 299$ pricetag, but no real pricedrop yet.

For the PS4, I'll wait for NPD for final judgement, to see if our numbers are correct, but after those disappointing December sales I'd say it's slowly getting time a pricecut. Don't expect more than 50$/€, though, PS4 sales are not crashing down like the Wii did in it's heyday

I don't think Switch will actually get a price cut, I think it will launch a new Lite model that starts at $250. 

I think PS4 will sell 15-16M. Which is pretty amazing considering how old it is. I don't see a price cut changing that prediction (cause it factors it in). 



Before the first direct of the year, we didnt know about smash, mario party, pokemon(neither lets go neither new gen), hyrule warriors, DKCTF, dark souls, diablo, fortnite, civilization.
If follows the same for this year, we will have plenty of games to be announced beyond all we already know: like pokemon AC, luigis, yoshi, deus x machina, mk11, marvel aliance 3, town, doom eternal.
For me, just release a direct that show as may games as last year directs and switch will carry its momentum the entire year.



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I wish we knew regional sales. I want to see switch and ps4 sales in Europe



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
DonFerrari said:

No problem and no need to discuss if you were or not, as you said it wasn't your intention and that is enough to me.

And yes both are on the brink of either having a price cut or sales level being lower than what they should be (they certainly are below what they could be with the cuts).

Ok, glad we could come to an understanding then  

I personally kind of think that the price cut for Switch will come in the form of a mini releasing around late Q2/early Q3. Not sure about the PS4 though ... 

As the other guy said you are a fine poster so no biggie =´]

PS4 is due to a real slim PS4 and slim Pro, but considering how much it sold and what is expected to sell from now on it may never see it.

And yes same or smaller form factor (it is a little big for a portable) with equal or bigger screen on a smaller entry price would be good. And they could save space and cost with a full HH with the controls "fused" to the body as well.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

No?

Ironically I think you are interpreting stuff from my comment I didn't say. All I was saying is that both consoles are overdue for a cut. I didn't say kero said otherwise. I did however say it was an excuse, but thats mostly because it could be said about both of them. If its only said about one console it makes it sound like its doing great despite the constraints. When really both have the same constraint. It's called a clarification. Someone said something, I clarified something. Doesn't mean I was arguing against something someone didn't say. Just adding to what was already said. 

It seems more like several other weeks when someone either complimented PS4 doing great on holidays (by not being that far behind and all) but someone needed to point out that Switch should be receiving props because it was selling incredible. When it was very much expected to do those great numbers, and praising one doesn't remove the other if don't praise it as well.

He and no one was giving excuses, they were stating a fact, for a 6 year with that price and so long without a cut PS4 is doing good. So your comment seemed like a strawman because no one was arguing anything regarding Switch or even using price as an excuse, it was just pointing out on what is expected and achieved.

Praising PS4 when Switch is the leader doesn't mean you're a Switch hater

Praising Switch when PS4 is the leader doesn't mean you're a PS4 hater

Like everywhere else on the internet, people must chill



God bless You.

My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

There were three ravens sat on a tree / They were as blacke as they might be / The one of them said to his mate, Where shall we our breakfast take?